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DF Reference Collection / Re: Discontinuity = clue? [GS sample ch spoilers]
« on: July 06, 2011, 04:31:57 PM »
Quote from: Shecky on July 06, 2011, 04:28:20 PM
No, I'm just enjoying some of the false assumptions. Very creative.

It's fun to speculate and then find out exactly how wrong you were.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Discontinuity = clue? [GS sample ch spoilers]
« on: July 06, 2011, 03:26:59 PM »
Quote from: taishojojo on July 06, 2011, 03:02:45 PM
My point was maybe we're reading too much into it.
If that were the case (nervous eating), I would have thought he'd have taken more than or taken several over multiple withdrawals.

upon re-reading the chapter I noticed this:In the same instant he's treating Dresden with contempt (for Dresden's prior treatment of Morty), Morty acknowledges (by speaking of living-Harry as Dresden) that the real person is different from the ghost/echo.
Either that or somebody got their tenses mixed up and it is yet another item to make it past Butcher, his main editor, his continuity editor, and the Betas (provided the Betas are not considered de facto continuity editors).

and uh... just so people aren't thinking I'm nit picking.... I can hardly for the book.

He also makes a point of complaining about "Dresden's shade" coming to visit him.

As we've had explained by Harry before, who is less of an expert on this particular subject than Mort, the ghost is NOT the person, it is a pale imprint of the person that covers only parts of them.  I find it interesting that we are seeing this story from the perspective of a ghost, or there is something special going on here.  Whatever it is, I find it rather significant.


Also another interesting point along with mort being in only/all of the books that feature death in the title.  And in those same books, Harry dies/should have died.  Laundry room scene in GP, Shiro taking a bullet for him in DM, Gard/Marcone saving him in DB, and now him actually dying in GS (he was technically still alive for the last couple seconds of Changes I think, and then died in the first couple seconds of GS).  I just find this very interesting.  I mean yea, Harry comes close to dying in every book, usually several times.  However these are the only ones where we're told he is actually "fated" to die or does actually die.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Discontinuity = clue? [GS sample ch spoilers]
« on: July 05, 2011, 05:21:05 PM »
Quote from: Serack on July 05, 2011, 04:42:50 PM
However, that happened in Chapter 18 of DB while Harry saw that Mort had already shaved his head bald in Chapter 10.  Still, this is possible.

Yea, the whole chapter with Mort just seems off to me.  In the first three chapters of the story, you get kinda the weird vibe just because harry is now a ghost, but you're really only interacting with new characters(Carmichael is an old character, but we haven't seen him since book 2, and he was never really that major, AND is now a ghost, so you're expecting some different reactions).  Mort though has been seen in 3? of the books now (Grave Peril, Death Masks, and Dead Beat I believe).  In GP, he acted like he does in GS-ch4.  In Death Masks, doesn't Mort arrange the meeting, on the Fowler show? He acts weird, but not unusually so.  In Dead Beat, again he acts reluctant, but agrees to help out, and in the end Harry defeats the Necromancers.  Wouldn't that earn him some points with Mort, as harry in effect helped out the spirits he is so fond of by removing the guys who would exploit them, and saving Chicago?  But then, Harry dies and he goes to visit Mort, and Mort again acts like Harry is absolutely nothing but trouble.  It seems off to me.

I'm really looking forward to this book and seeing how it all plays out.  My only worry is that I might not have enough time to finish Dance with Dragons before GS comes out, in which case I'll have to pick Dance up again afterwards.  And I also have to finish the last Black Company novel in this re-read before THAT one comes out.  July is gonna be a busy month.


Oh, and I didn't see it till writing this post, but does anyone else think its funny/awesome that Mort only shows up in books that have a reference to death in the title, and that he shows up in all of those? :D

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Discontinuity = clue? [GS sample ch spoilers]
« on: July 05, 2011, 04:30:36 PM »
Could it maybe have something to do with how harry was "supposed to" die in Dead Beat, until Gard/Marcone saved him from Corpsetaker?

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Who told Monica Sells? (Wild speculation and possible series spoilers)
« on: June 29, 2011, 03:05:53 PM »
Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on June 28, 2011, 10:32:15 PM
Your spoiler tag is where I disagree.  I think Victor was given an unused ritual to test whether it would work, and was otherwise totally disposable.

Except we know from the end of Changes that Martin, as a Red court half-vamp priest saw the ritual, or read about it, and used that as the basis for his scheme to double-bluff and destroy the RC.  This doesn't mesh well with the idea that it's something that hadn't been tested until some no-name newb sorceror in Chicago used storm/sex power to run it.

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