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DF Reference Collection / Re: WAG of fate. spoilers!
« on: February 01, 2013, 11:56:29 AM »
Do you one better. here's the whole thingy
Nemesis

by H. P. Lovecraft

Through the ghoul-guarded gateways of slumber,
   Past the wan-mooned abysses of night,
I have lived o'er my lives without number,
   I have sounded all things with my sight;
And I struggle and shriek ere the daybreak, being driven to madness with fright.

I have whirled with the earth at the dawning,
   When the sky was a vaporous flame;
I have seen the dark universe yawning
   Where the black planets roll without aim,
Where they roll in their horror unheeded, without knowledge or lustre or name.

I had drifted o'er seas without ending,
   Under sinister grey-clouded skies,
That the many-forked lightning is rending,
   That resound with hysterical cries;
With the moans of invisible daemons, that out of the green waters rise.

I have plunged like a deer through the arches
   Of the hoary primoridal grove,
Where the oaks feel the presence that marches,
   And stalks on where no spirit dares rove,
And I flee from a thing that surrounds me, and leers through dead branches above.

I have stumbled by cave-ridden mountains
   That rise barren and bleak from the plain,
I have drunk of the fog-foetid fountains
   That ooze down to the marsh and the main;
And in hot cursed tarns I have seen things, I care not to gaze on again.

I have scanned the vast ivy-clad palace,
   I have trod its untenanted hall,
Where the moon rising up from the valleys
   Shows the tapestried things on the wall;
Strange figures discordantly woven, that I cannot endure to recall.

I have peered from the casements in wonder
   At the mouldering meadows around,
At the many-roofed village laid under
   The curse of a grave-girdled ground;
And from rows of white urn-carven marble, I listen intently for sound.

I have haunted the tombs of the ages,
   I have flown on the pinions of fear,
Where the smoke-belching Erebus rages;
   Where the jokulls loom snow-clad and drear:
And in realms where the sun of the desert consumes what it never can cheer.

I was old when the pharaohs first mounted
   The jewel-decked throne by the Nile;
I was old in those epochs uncounted
   When I, and I only, was vile;
And Man, yet untainted and happy, dwelt in bliss on the far Arctic isle.

Oh, great was the sin of my spirit,
   And great is the reach of its doom;
Not the pity of Heaven can cheer it,
   Nor can respite be found in the tomb:
Down the infinite aeons come beating the wings of unmerciful gloom.

Through the ghoul-guarded gateways of slumber,
   Past the wan-mooned abysses of night,
I have lived o'er my lives without number,
   I have sounded all things with my sight;
And I struggle and shriek ere the daybreak, being driven to madness with fright.

 

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DF Reference Collection / Re: WAG of fate. spoilers!
« on: February 01, 2013, 11:44:59 AM »
I think that what we have stumbled upon here is a coincidence. Nemesis could as easily be reference to the Lovecraft poem of the same name.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: [CD spoilers] Corruption WAG
« on: December 19, 2012, 10:43:00 PM »
I bet I can out crazy your crazy WAGs... The reason Harry can effect as iff they were on a more level field, and the reason why Harry has a peculiar influence as a namer is because he is part outsider, and that to be star born requires not just an alignment but also requires other specific circumstances to enhance the foetus with outsider genetics, anything from full scion to some ritual involving lots of squiggly lines an copious quantities of fluffernutter consistency goo.


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It's a little odd really that Harry could have killed a council warden in a straight up duel come to think of it. HWCB according to bob went in against Harry at that time to start weaponizing him, maybe DuMorne was continuing the process along, or maybe something else had taken DuMorne the way DuMorne took Elaine.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« on: April 13, 2012, 07:49:13 PM »
Council calls vanilla humans mortals too

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« on: March 20, 2012, 09:13:09 PM »
Oh hell no.

Kincaid was insisting that he was a vanilla mortal for the entire scene, he was effectively saying "you're human and I'm human as well" when he said that.

I know it's probably soft, any theory based on any fact other than a WOJ or the word given in text from a being who is known to be unable to lie is subject to colouration as it is seen and heard through the eyes and ears of one Harry Dresden.  Conversations held with other characters may similarly contain  obfuscation and misdirection if not outright lies.

I take it that we read that passage entirely differently:

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“... You're a liar”
“Excuse me?”
“I said you're a liar. I saw you fight at Wrigley, Kincaid. You fired a dozen shots, on the move and dodging bad guys the whole time."

This I took to mean that everything before Harry called Kincaid a liar to be false, Kincaid does not deny the lie, he redirects.  When he says he's just as human as Dresden is, I take this to be the only true statement he makes in the conversation, if for no other reason than that is the way I'd do it for dramatic flair – it makes for good storytelling (plus, Kincaid is a prick, I could see him saying something like this just to say “I told you so” later).  If I’m right about Kincaid's statements in Blood Rights, then: if Kincaid is a scion (which defines him as not fully human) Harry must in turn have something unnatural in his bloodline.  Unless I have evidence either of Harry's family tree or a WOJ saying I'm wrong, then 2 of four possible cases for this argument are equal.

1.) Harry and Kincaid are both not fully Human  {x}
2.) Harry is fully human and Kincaid is not        {x}
3.) Both Harry and Kincaid are fully human
4.) Harry is not fully human, but Kincaid is

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No not quite, Corpsetaker (according to Harry in Dead Beat) had power levels similar to Harry, but she only needed to possess someone of, say, Mort or Molly tier powers to get her full strength back.

And I'm fairly certain that was Corpsetaker's actual spirit, not her ghost.

Assumes a firm definition between the terms spirit and ghost, all we have is a definition between spirit and soul.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Dresden Files: Series Timeline
« on: March 20, 2012, 06:01:47 PM »
entirely possible that Ramirez has not yet started to show his age too.  The normal apprenticeship of a White Council Wizard could be something like 20 or 30 years long for all we know, maybe modified by the amount of go juice the apprentice has to throw around.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Unsolved Mysteries Version II
« on: March 20, 2012, 05:55:23 PM »
so if Kincaid is a Scion, doesn't that make Harry a Scion as well?

"What's the point of shooting if you're just going to miss?" He smiled, made a mime-gun of his thumb and index finger, and aimed at me. His thumb fell forward and he said, "I'm as human as you are, Dresden. I'll see you later." (Blood Rites)

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According to Ghost Story, however, once a practitioner dies, their power is limited to the ability of whatever new body they inhabit, which was why Corpsetaker wanted Mortimer when she switched with Luccio she was still alive. Cowl took DuMorne because he was the stronhest available body.

It would have been easy, too - the Council has only just now given more than cursory attention  to defense against mind attacks/possesion.

Incorrect, when the ghost of a practitioner takes over a new body it only has the level of magical power that body has, which is why Corpsetaker required more than just the minor talents that she had gathered in her big hood gang.  When a live practitioner does a body jump their power comes with them, minus the hardware changes using magic over time has caused.  I think this has something to do with still having a soul.

This hard and fast rule can be circumvented by the ghost of the practitioner eating a bunch of other ghosts (gaining enough energy) before trying to take over a new body, but it would have to be a boatload of powerful ghosts.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Dark influences on Harry
« on: March 20, 2012, 05:30:11 PM »
if you define cold blooded as without anger (and I do), then it was

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