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DF Spoilers / Re: Winter Lady Restrictions
« on: August 17, 2022, 04:53:19 PM »
We don't know precisely what Nemfection can and cannot do.

My theory is that it does in fact eliminate that limit -- the Lady'sMantle won't even "notice" a Nemfected Lady have sex... become pregnant... even give birth.

It subverts all those things.

I agree we don't know the total extent of Nemesis's power.We can, however, make some guesses. We know that when Aurora was infected, Nemesis did not destroy Aurora's mantle, but rather attempted to take Summer's knight mantle out of play by petrifying Lily. I believe if Nemesis could've destroyed Aurora's mantle, that particular plot wouldn't have been necessary.

My guess is that while Nemesis can infect the holder of a mantle and influence his or her actions, it can not actually directly manipulate the mantle to such a point. If it was within Nemesis's power to allow Aurora to lay with a man and become pregnant, it would've done so, because it would have achieved its goal at that point.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Winter Lady Restrictions
« on: August 12, 2022, 08:21:39 PM »
Hmm.
I've obviously missed something in the text.
Help a brother out?  Can anyone cite or quote for me?

Cold Case, Mab to Molly: "Maiden, mother, and crone. You are the maiden, Lady Molly. And for you to be otherwise, to become a mother, would be to destroy the mantle of power you wear. The mantle protected itself—as it must."

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DF Spoilers / Re: Winter Lady Restrictions
« on: August 11, 2022, 12:00:42 PM »
I'm pretty sure Nemfection freed Maeve from all those restrictions, though... She could lie overtly, she could have intercourse with a man, etc.

If Nemesis could subvert her nature to that extent, then it would've been able to destroy the mantle, according to Mab's warning.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Winter Lady Restrictions
« on: August 10, 2022, 02:43:22 PM »
I don't think we know for sure yet, but I sort of doubt it'll allow much of that sort of activity.

It being a magic think make me believe that the requirements would be metaphysical rather than physical—after all, if its purpose was mere pregnancy prevention, it would be much more efficient to make her womb inaccessible or unsuitable than to fight off anyone who wants to give her a go.

My guess is that the mantle is keeping her an actual maiden, i.e. young, nubile, desirable, and unused.

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