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Cinder Spires Spoilers / Cider Spires is set in Alera? Reposting this topic
« on: March 16, 2017, 05:00:46 PM »
I know @stevef started a post like this in May 2016 (sorry if I've missed other posts like this). I just finished Codex Alera series after already reading Aeronaught's Windlass, and the similarities are striking:
1) as stevef mentioned, Alera warned of major changes in the atmosphere in response to Tavi's manipulation of the wind in First Lord's fury. This might explain the unusual environment of Cinder Spires
2) the cat-like race in Cinder Spires, the "Warriorborn", sound an awful lot like Marat, perhaps with their chala creatures being cats. Perhaps Kitai and Tavi's offspring grew into a half-human half-marat race that chose a cat as their totem/chala?
3) The spires could have been raised by earth crafters to escape something...
4) the terrifying creatures alluded to on the Cinder Spire's world's surface could be loose vord - the ones that were kept as pets by the steadholders who were under the Queen Vord's protection and spared in vord territory at the end of First Lord's fury.
5) the wax spiders = silk weavers; both are described similarly with teeth and venom. It makes me wonder wether the "real" story of the vord is that of the spiders; perhaps they are mores significant as the producers of the wax than even the queen, and perhaps they have adapted to serve and become somewhat symbiotic with humans by producing silk in the Cinder Spires world.
6) The vattery's that make the lift crystals in Cinder Spires - are they trapped wind furies or something similar? At the end of First Lord's fury, Tavi has those small fire-bombs produced by trapping fire furies in glass, and it is commented that this would usher in a new age of supremacy of non- or weak-crafters.
7) The language is similar; I can't remember if the exact term "bloody crows" is used in both, but certainly the cadence of the language continues throughout both Codex and Cinder.
8 ) the etherialists seem similar to water crafters in their prescience (something that Tavi also possessed) and their sensitivity, yet surprising power.
Anyone else notice other similarities?
Again, sorry if I've missed other posts on this. I was pretty excited when the pieces began to fit.
Jim Butcher, if you read this, thanks so much for all of the great books! I owe you my new-found love of running with audiobooks.
Cheers!
Alex
1) as stevef mentioned, Alera warned of major changes in the atmosphere in response to Tavi's manipulation of the wind in First Lord's fury. This might explain the unusual environment of Cinder Spires
2) the cat-like race in Cinder Spires, the "Warriorborn", sound an awful lot like Marat, perhaps with their chala creatures being cats. Perhaps Kitai and Tavi's offspring grew into a half-human half-marat race that chose a cat as their totem/chala?
3) The spires could have been raised by earth crafters to escape something...
4) the terrifying creatures alluded to on the Cinder Spire's world's surface could be loose vord - the ones that were kept as pets by the steadholders who were under the Queen Vord's protection and spared in vord territory at the end of First Lord's fury.
5) the wax spiders = silk weavers; both are described similarly with teeth and venom. It makes me wonder wether the "real" story of the vord is that of the spiders; perhaps they are mores significant as the producers of the wax than even the queen, and perhaps they have adapted to serve and become somewhat symbiotic with humans by producing silk in the Cinder Spires world.
6) The vattery's that make the lift crystals in Cinder Spires - are they trapped wind furies or something similar? At the end of First Lord's fury, Tavi has those small fire-bombs produced by trapping fire furies in glass, and it is commented that this would usher in a new age of supremacy of non- or weak-crafters.
7) The language is similar; I can't remember if the exact term "bloody crows" is used in both, but certainly the cadence of the language continues throughout both Codex and Cinder.
8 ) the etherialists seem similar to water crafters in their prescience (something that Tavi also possessed) and their sensitivity, yet surprising power.
Anyone else notice other similarities?
Again, sorry if I've missed other posts on this. I was pretty excited when the pieces began to fit.
Jim Butcher, if you read this, thanks so much for all of the great books! I owe you my new-found love of running with audiobooks.
Cheers!
Alex