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Site Suggestions & Support / Re: Policy Changes: How do you feel?
« on: June 23, 2010, 01:42:35 AM »
So if we have complaints on your modding, PG, we send them to onlyelise?   ;D

Actually, go to Iago and Co first, they don't scare me as bad.  If you reaaaaaaaally get pissed at me, then tell Elise.  And if she cheeses you off, report the hell out of her, just not to me.

she knows where I sleep.

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Site Suggestions & Support / Re: Policy Changes: How do you feel?
« on: June 23, 2010, 12:59:38 AM »
This is why our wedding was referred to as Operation Yes Dear.

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Site Suggestions & Support / Re: Policy Changes: How do you feel?
« on: June 23, 2010, 12:57:13 AM »
<smacks PG>


Yeah.

I deserved that. 

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Site Suggestions & Support / Re: Policy Changes: How do you feel?
« on: June 23, 2010, 12:50:42 AM »
No, I really do not like the changes. Maybe because I was painted with the ban hammer brush and feel that no matter what I say it will be looked at more closely than it would have before.

I know how Harry felt with the Doom over him and Morgan looking over his shoulder every second.

David

Actually there aren't just enough of us to go all Morgan on you or anybody else for that matter.  If somebody has a history of doing the same thing, we look harder when a new complaint hits our box.  And when we get a complaint, if a post is out of line, we'll crawl back over the last day or two's posts by that poster to see if it was an aberration, simple slip up, or a part of an escalating pattern.  There's too much traffic for us to eyeball everythread outside those that we just have an interest in.  Other than that, we don't come running unless somebody calls.  I don't even have the manpower to stalk Mila Jovovich properly, much less any particular forum member.  (One exception being new threads with titles that scream "INCOMING", say something political or likely to cause precludious and dispositional behaviour, like "Will Harry Find Jesus and blow up BP"?  That'll grab our attention Real Good.)  

Point being, nobody's gonna come gunning for you personal like, just be wary of slipping into whatever behaviour was an issue before.  If you think a post might be pushing it, ease up and let it simmer for a while before posting it.   

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Site Suggestions & Support / Re: Policy Changes: How do you feel?
« on: June 22, 2010, 08:19:12 PM »
If you haven't gotten a PM or had a mod quote your post in Public Smackdown Reply, then you're probably ok, just a bystander who got some splash.  Although if your tone of voice was rising along with everyone else's in the thread that got Mod Swarmed, then it'll be a good idea to gentle it down some.  

If you have to ask yourself, "Do I need to relax this thing?", then the answer is probably "Yep."  

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Site Suggestions & Support / Re: Policy Changes: How do you feel?
« on: June 22, 2010, 01:32:32 AM »
Fear the Sober Dwarf.

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Site Suggestions & Support / Re: Policy Changes: How do you feel?
« on: June 22, 2010, 12:47:58 AM »
10 Cane Rum.  It's sipping rum, not shooting rum. 

Besides, I don't get Happy Fun Drunk any more.  I go from "ah, a mite tipsy" straight to "Oh Gawd, pls kill meh... pleeeese..."

Can't drink proper no more, it's a crying shame.  Time wounds all heels I guess.

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Site Suggestions & Support / Re: Policy Changes: How do you feel?
« on: June 22, 2010, 12:36:31 AM »
Oh, I understand all this quite well.       I don't expect there to be a stick to punish each and every offender.   

I am rather pointing out that there are no more carrots than there were before.    :)

We all pretty much have to bring our own carrots I'm afraid.  Encourage the good stuff, the grown up, the positive, the supportive when you see it.  You think somebody handles something well, defuses something that was getting a little to vinagery, send 'em a PM saying "Hey, good job with that, right decent of you."  Be courteous and classy when even when someone else isn't.  Your own credibility in debate will increase, and theirs will dwindle, people will be more interested in engaging you on your terms, and less in listening to some passive-aggressive braying.

Considering I was one of the more ill tempered posters back in the TT days, I'm getting a little dizzy and think I'll take a drink.


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Site Suggestions & Support / Re: Policy Changes: How do you feel?
« on: June 22, 2010, 12:29:08 AM »
Another factor to remember is that while 3 threads might have the same "heat value", if one of those threads has a post from someone with a history of playing with matches, that someone is going to get more attention.

One of the reasons for the public warnings is we're trying to make sure everyone understands the new standards of decorum.  Say Mickey PM's me because I'm being a big too vulgar, asks me to please not use my peers so familiar... I might ammend my behavior but others will keep doing it until they each get their own PM on the issue.  That's a lot of PM's.  But if Mickey comes over and roasts my ass, Prisc kicks dirt on it, Ashton makes me eat it, then everybody gets that calling someone a
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is a big old No Go.  Nobody likes getting their balls busted, much less in public, but we're trying to salvage a forum that was going south of cheese in a number of ways.  I can assure you there is no shortage of gentle PM advice and suggestion, but we don't always have time for it.  

Now, for us Baby Moderaptors, if you feel we make a comment or correction that's over the top or out of line, talk to Iago.  He wants to grade our driving, and needs to know if we need correction, or to be sent to play with Old Yeller.

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Site Suggestions & Support / Re: Policy Changes: How do you feel?
« on: June 21, 2010, 11:40:04 PM »
Simple fact is, we will never be able to police everything.  There aren't enough of us to be the Debate Procedural Fact Police in every occassion.  So we focus on the worst case behavior, and address issues as people bring them to us.  Rudeness, disrespectful and offensive behaviour, etc. 

Sometimes, a body just plain doesn't like how another body argues.  Sometimes we just don't like the cut of their jib.  "Alpha Fox 6, Do NOT engage!  Repeat, do NOT engage!"  If somebody's being rude, disrespectful, report them.  But if someone just gets on your nerves because you feel their approach to a debate is improper, then don't try to win a pissing contest with a skunk.  Now, if that skunk follows you all around the damn place and is clearly acting like Max Cady in Cape Fear, jumping on everything you say... then you could have an issue to bring us.   

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Site Suggestions & Support / Re: Policy Changes: How do you feel?
« on: June 21, 2010, 05:20:20 PM »
There have been a few times where I've seen the full might of the moderators fall on someone and I couldn't figure out why.

perhaps it was because the offending post was deleted or edited before I ever read it.  But sometimes it feels a little random.  That being said, I haven't really changed what I would or would not say on the forum.  Though I have done a better job of resisting Fist of Death.

I'm not so much worried about the Line.. I think for the most part the line is pretty clear.
Although Don't Mess with Texas seems to be a new by word on the forum :)

Frequently there will be a pattern of behavior on different areas of the forum.  An out of line crack on the thread dedicated to ham worship, an out of line remark on a spoiler section dedicated to how the Accords regulate Harry's sock drawer, etc, and a week before that an out of line comment on yet another thread.  The issues can occur all over the place where no individual member of mod might spot the matter, but we pull things together and compare notes.  We don't just look at a single poster's behavior in one section or on one topic, but their overall activity.  Eventually someone gets the "we've asked nice, the boy just don't get it" award.  It might seem like a random banhammer for one comment, but it's often something the person's been working towards for a while. 

Also, sometimes it can be just a case someone reverting to old behaviour they've been "corrected" on in the past.  A single infraction can win a vacation if it's bad enough, or occurs after the Enough of This Bullshit Lamp has been lit because of similar infractions of the same sort.

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The Bar / Re: A note regarding linking images.
« on: June 19, 2010, 04:36:54 PM »
Oh, I don't mind the chatter, as long as people read the first part.

Which reminds me why I left it unlocked... To see what ideas/preferences people have for photo servers. 

I've been using Photobucket, simply because it's the first free one I found.  For those that use a photo hostey thing, which one do you use and is there any particular advantage to it?

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DFRPG / Re: Supernatural Muslim Fighters
« on: June 18, 2010, 05:46:45 PM »
The Epic of Gilgamesh comes to mind.

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DFRPG / Re: Supernatural Muslim Fighters
« on: June 18, 2010, 05:29:03 PM »
My post is just a friendly advisement.  Like those big orange barrels at the roadside or construction tape around a big hole in the ground.  In this case, we're on ground that could quite easilly drift into Touchy Topic Land.  The OP has a fascinating idea that can enrich the gameworld, and it brings other ideas to mind.  How have the Massai dealt with supernatural predators, for example?

I just wanted to ensure we don't wander into direction of real life commentary on social/political issues.  Thread drift being what it is, think about how often a mention of Robin Hood turns brings up comments socialism, captialism, etc.  Or how often a question about Michael's sword turns into a discussion or even snarky arguement on various interpretations of Christianity, predestination, and high fructose corn syrup.  So we need to be careful where we let our rambling lead us.  Imagine Larry Fowler getting a hold of it, taking it out of context and saying "New Harry Dresden game teaches children to be suicide bombers!"  

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DFRPG / Re: Supernatural Muslim Fighters
« on: June 18, 2010, 12:52:40 PM »
This thread really, really doesn't want to go into suicide bombers and the like.  The original idea has a great deal of merit, but stay away from modern social/political issues like that. 

I assure you.

I most emphatically assure you.

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