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DF Books / Re: Monsters Short Story
« on: October 10, 2019, 02:53:43 PM »
uhm nope never heard it before

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DF Spoilers / Re: How did the Red Court Originate?
« on: October 10, 2019, 02:37:29 PM »
I mean we've seen Super Ghouls that were supposed to be the precursor to Ghouls the same way Neanderthals are too human in White Night. Ghouls were once again servants of White Court in the College Bigfoot story, where Rivers in his Shoulders fought off twenty. So Ghouls have twice been associated with the White Court.

As to Paranet Papers being canon. I'd say canon until proven otherwise. Paranet is referenced as a significant community in Ghost Story. Hell we are discussing this on a site called Paranet.

As to the Red Court and the LoON being Gods. A) Vaddderung. B) Snacking on Mayan Gods you are what you eat. C) Being Worshipped by the Red Court and there servants. D) It's in the name Lords of the OUTER NIGHT.



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DF Spoilers / Re: How did the Red Court Originate?
« on: October 06, 2019, 06:45:12 AM »
Keep in mind that Lara and Thomas are both venatores which basically makes them enemies of most elder God's like the LoON. Hell they even tried too take out the get despite Winters importance of the Outer Gates.

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DF Spoilers / Re: 1884-85 The time that Eb took up the Blackstaff
« on: October 03, 2019, 10:00:23 AM »
Yep and according to Luccio's SHort story which was mid 1800's when Wyatt Earp was around. EBenezar was Captain of the Wardens and had defeated 3 warlocks in magical combat. So he had combat experience and already had a bit of a rep.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Some thoughts on Stormfront
« on: October 03, 2019, 07:27:27 AM »
I mean it's already confirmed some nemesis infection, when Dresden finds out about Nemesis it lists his first three cases. Oh and the Red Court were most likely involved given they tried to supercharge the spell to hit ancestors in Changes.

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DF Spoilers / Which god do you want to see in Dresden Files?
« on: October 01, 2019, 06:13:06 PM »
So by the Wrestling book we'll see a few more Gods which one do you want to see the most?

Personally I'm interested in the Greek Gods family dynamic as according to Jim Hades, is the sane one and has made analogies to Arrested Development.

However I'd also be interested in the Titans, as presumably they're some of the Old Ones humanity hasn't forgotten yet. So the Venatori and the Archive haven't been successful against them, so maybe we get to see more of the Oblivion War as well.

I also hope we see some of the Egyptian gods. The Egyptian Pantheon religion lasted for twice that of Christianity, assuming you discount Jewish tradition.Personally I think the Spear of Osiris was the Egyptian version of a Knight of the Cross. Also we know Father Forthill and some other priests have tattoos of the Eye of Horus so we might get some more significant information about that as well.

Anyway thoughts? Theories? Which god(s) and why?

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DF Spoilers / Re: Did Kemmler start the Black Council?
« on: September 23, 2019, 03:37:24 AM »
Back to the original point. Kemmler was powerful enough to start World War 2 and fight the entire council. We know from Bob that he had connections to various nasty entities. This to me means that he was able to do this by starting the Black Council ensuring there loyalties the same way Justin DuMorne tried to ensure Elaine and Harry's.

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DF Spoilers / Did Kemmler start the Black Council?
« on: September 19, 2019, 08:22:17 AM »
Theories in the title. We know from Luccio's short story Society of Thule is legit- As legit as any other Black Magic group.

So I wonder if thats not the only organisation Kemmler started or was a part of?

Did he start the Black Council? or the Circle as Cowl says in White Night.

Also if it is the Circle, does the Circle only have 13 members? Similar to the Grey Council. As Dresden says thats the biggest number a spell can have.

Also how does the Black Council/Circle relate to the Fomor, Corpsetaker. If Cowl is a member and he fought against Corpsetaker and Grevane, who were Kemmlers disciples.

Anything else on the Black Council and Circle feel free to discuss.

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DF Spoilers / Re: What and who has Harry looked at with his Wizard's Sight?
« on: September 02, 2019, 07:16:51 AM »
The first Wizard Sight he saw was a Gnome when he was 14 with DuMorne.

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DF Spoilers / Re: How did the Red Court Originate?
« on: August 24, 2019, 07:55:06 AM »
Where are you getting Papa Raith killing his brother?

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DF Spoilers / Re: How did the Red Court Originate?
« on: August 21, 2019, 02:24:51 AM »
Paranet Papers offers the most conclusive canon story of the Red Courts origins and rise to power.

(click to show/hide)

So the oirginal Lord of Outer Night were vampires/sorcerers who fed on Old Gods thereby gaining their power.

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DF Spoilers / Re: What does Kringle know that Nicodemus doesn't?
« on: August 18, 2019, 03:43:41 AM »
Actually I meant Murphy and Butters. When Murphy says he's fighting for his soul.

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DF Spoilers / Re: What does Kringle know that Nicodemus doesn't?
« on: August 16, 2019, 07:50:47 AM »
Mac, as a rule, rarely uttered multi-syllables. Today, he said, “May your scales always return to balance.” Her mouth quirked at the corner and she said, “Flatterer.”

Butcher, Jim. Skin Game (The Dresden Files, Book 15) (pp. 370-371). Little, Brown Book Group. Kindle Edition

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I do think the plot was ultimately Mab's.
The symmetry of Nic having to lose his daughter has to appeal to a vengeful, angry, bereaved Mab who has just lost one of her daughters (and all but lost the other).


I think Uriel was trying to save Harry's soul as much as he was Nicodemus or the Squires. It's sort of an undercurrent through out the whole book. Murphy and Butters have a deep conversation to that effect. Michael's chat with Harry is also almost entirely about it. Plus Harry becomes a Real Father by the end of it.

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DF Spoilers / Re: What does Kringle know that Nicodemus doesn't?
« on: August 14, 2019, 08:36:00 AM »
Some good points. I still think there's something Kringle/Vadderung knows that could be crucial against Nicodemus and Anduriel. Although I guess there is the fact that Kringle knew that Harry had hired Goodman Grey while Nicodemus thought he had his contract. That would be the crucial knowledge needed to defeat Nicodemus.

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DFRPG / Re: Scion or Emissary of a Dragon
« on: August 12, 2019, 04:39:57 AM »
OK here are all my Dragon related characters. Ddraig is a Dragon in Arthurian and Welsh mythology. Melusine is a Dragon/Fey creature from French mythology.

William (Submerged)

Leaving the Aspects mostly blank, since you haven't told me much about this guy.

High Concept: Wizard Archaeologist
Trouble Aspect: Emissary of Ddraig
Other Aspects:
Skills:
Superb: Lore
Great: Discipline, Conviction, Scholarship
Good: Weapons, Rapport, Endurance
Fair: Resources, Presence, Alertness
Average: Athletics, Empathy, Deceit
Stunts:
Ddraig's Contacts (Lore): Use Lore instead of Contacts to know dragons and those who associate with dragons.
Powers:
Marked By Power [-1]
Wizard's Constitution [-0]
The Sight [-1]
Soulgaze [-0]
Evocation [-3]
Thaumaturgy [-3]
Magic:
Evocation (Fire, Air, Earth): +1 air control
Thaumaturgy: +1 crafting strength
Foci: Sword (+1 offensive air power)
Enchanted items: 6 slots, power 6, loadout varies
Total Refresh Cost:
-9
Refresh Total:
1

Charles Drake (Submerged)

High Concept: Dragonborn "Ex"-Pirate
Trouble Aspect: A Bit Too Old School
Other Aspects: Motley Crew, Vulnerable Neck, Wanted For Credit Card Fraud, Treasure Hoards, Sailed With Blackbeard
Skills:
Superb: Deceit, Resources
Great: Driving, Weapons
Good: Contacts, Intimidation
Fair: Discipline, Guns
Average: Endurance, Athletics, Burglary, Stealth, Conviction, Alertness, Presence
Skills (Dragon form):
Superb: Fists, Athletics
Great: Might, Alertness
Good: Endurance, Intimidation
Fair: Discipline, Weapons, Deceit
Average: Conviction, Presence, Stealth, Driving, Burglary
Stunts:
Treasure Hoards (Resources): Given time to access a hoard and convert its contents into usable cash, +2 Resources.
Master of Schemes and Scams (Deceit): Can use Deceit instead of Scholarship or Burglary to handle the technical side of various frauds.
Powers:
Echoes of the Beast [-1]
Human Form [+1]
  Beast Change [-1]
  Claws [-1]
  Supernatural Senses [-2]
  Feeding Dependency [+1]
    Inhuman Strength [-2]
    Inhuman Toughness [-2]
    Inhuman Recovery [-2]
    The Catch [+3]
    Wings [-1]
Total Refresh Cost:
-9
Refresh Total:
1

Remy (Up To Your Waist)

Unfortunately, it's not possible to have thaumaturgy and all five Evocation elements at Refresh level 7. Hope the lack of air and earth doesn't bother you.

High Concept: Magician-Sorcerer
Trouble Aspect: Fae'd To Black
Other Aspects: Would-Be Dragonslayer, Trained In Bagua, Gentleman Thief, Family Above All, Corporate Bureaucratic Bullshit
Skills:
Great: Discipline, Deceit
Good: Conviction, Lore
Fair: Fists, Rapport
Average: Empathy, Stealth, Athletics, Alertness, Burglary, Endurance, Presence
Powers:
Evocation [-3]
Thaumaturgy [-3]
Magic:
Evocation (Air, Spirit, Water): +1 spirit power
Thaumaturgy: +1 worldwalking control
Foci: Svartalf staff (+1 defensive spirit power and control)
Enchanted Items: Tarot cards (3-shift divination assessment of someone's destiny, once/session), illusion card (3-shift maneuver, creating an Aspect appropriate to cheating at cards, once/session), 2 potion slots
Total Refresh Cost:
-6
Refresh Total:
1

Ddraig (Deep One)

Wasn't sure whether dragons are free-willed or not, so I kept him close-ish to 0 Refresh.

My self-imposed rule about functional skill pyramids is always a pain in the neck when a character insists on being good at almost everything. Which Dragons generally do. But that's what True Shapeshifting is for! Ddraig can raise his physical skills freely. Presumably he doesn't have Mediocre Fists when he goes full dragon.

Most of the abilities locked behind Human Form are available only as a dragon, but obviously Wings and Hulking Size are exceptions. He can have those as a bird or an elephant.

He can't become much smaller than a human. Lacks Diminutive Size or the ability to Modular it up.

High Concept: Red Dragon of Wales
Trouble Aspect: Not Quite A Greater Dragon
Other Aspects: Patron of King Arthur, Accomplished Shapeshifter, Involved In Welsh Politics, My Emissary William, I Am Not Respected Enough
Skills:
Epic: Resources, Lore
Fantastic: Intimidation, Contacts
Superb: Conviction, Discipline
Great: Presence, Deceit
Good: Empathy, Scholarship, Survival
Fair: Performance, Rapport, Investigation, Craftsmanship
Average: Burglary, Driving, Guns, Alertness
Stunts:
Treasure (Resources): +2 Resources for gold, jewels, and the like.
Hired Help (Resources): Add a Minions trapping to Resources.
Powers:
Marked By Power (Self) [-1]
The Sight [-1]
Potent Ranged Selective Area Natural Weaponry [-5]
Supernatural Strength [-4]
Inhuman Speed [-2]
Supernatural Toughness [-4]
Supernatural Stoicism [-2]
Inhuman Recovery [-2]
True Shapeshifting [-4]
Human Form [+1]
  Hulking Size [-2]
  Mythic Strength [-2]
  Mythic Toughness [-2]
  Wings [-1]
Dragon Magic [-3]
Thaumaturgy [-3]
Refinement [-1]
Internalized Foci [-2]
Magic:
Thaumaturgy: +2 dragon magic complexity, +1 dragon magic control
Foci: +4 dragon magic complexity
Total Refresh Cost:
-42
Refresh Total:
-4
Melusine (In A Submarine)

High Concept: Summer Dragon
Trouble Aspect: Oaths And Their Breaking
Other Aspects: My Godson Remy, Big Screwed Up Family, Under A Curse
Skills:
Fantastic: Fists, Deceit
Superb: Lore, Might
Great: Resources, Contacts
Good: Presence, Conviction, Discipline
Fair: Rapport, Intimidation, Athletics
Average: Scholarship, Alertness, Investigation, Empathy, Survival
Stunts:
Treasure (Resources): +2 Resources for gold, jewels, and the like.
An Eye On My Descendants (Contacts): +2 Contacts when dealing with family matters.
Heavily Built (Might): Use Might for physical stress track.
Powers:
Marked By Power (Summer) [-1]
Aquatic [-1]
Greater Glamours [-4]
Potent Ranged Selective Area Natural Weaponry [-5]
Supernatural Strength [-4]
Inhuman Speed [-2]
Supernatural Toughness [-4]
Inhuman Recovery [-2]
Hulking Size [-2]
Wings [-1]
Summer Magic [-4]
Internalized Foci [-2]
Magic:
Foci: +2 summer magic complexity and control
Total Refresh Cost:
-36
Refresh Total:
-15

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