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DF Books / Re: Did you discover the books because of the TV Show?
« on: February 03, 2012, 06:09:58 PM »
I actually was recommended the series by my english teacher. I discovered the show afterwards, although I think it was a major disaster and disgrace to the series.

I wouldn't say that precisely; it did bring in a FLOOD of new readers who then saw the light. :)

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Author Craft / Re: Are Readers Growing Tired of New Urban Fantasy?
« on: January 31, 2012, 07:37:18 PM »
I'm liking Control Point so far, but I admit, I went sort of unamused when the book said "Women are usually healers..."

I've stayed unamused.

Unfortunately, that's an easy assumption-trap to fall into. I have a VERY hard time imagining Myke being that misogynistic. I think it's more along the lines of genetic predispositions, similar to men tending to be more muscular, single-tasking and concrete-thinking and women being more dextrous, multi-tasking and abstract-thinking (and yes, there IS more to the thought-style division than upbringing/environment). So I wouldn't read into it.

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Author Craft / Re: Are Readers Growing Tired of New Urban Fantasy?
« on: January 31, 2012, 06:38:52 PM »
Ditto, and for sometime now. It's not that I wouldn't love a really great new one, but you trod through an awful lot of 'maybes' that don't make it and it's easier to shun the lot a bit.  Although I will give Shecky's suggestion a hard look, even though I'm not a true military sci fi fan. Does your wife like it? You and her have not lead me astray when it comes to tv series.

All the more reason to look toward the next DF!

That's the very reason I was gun-shy about UF back when I found TDF - there was so much (let's be honest) crap out there. Jim brought me back into the fold and I found folks like Seanan McGuire, Anton Strout, Harry Connolly and others.

As for SO:CP, yes, Sue enjoyed it. Much as with the DF TV show, it wasn't a genre she generally would've gotten into, but it surprised her. She's actually recommending Myke's book unprompted.

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Author Craft / Re: Are Readers Growing Tired of New Urban Fantasy?
« on: January 31, 2012, 04:00:15 PM »
As you point out, it started the craze, not the genre. It WAS newness for people who weren't SF/F readers before - modern fantasy existed for quite some time before it got rebranded as urban fantasy (I still prefer the name MF for childish-snicker reasons) and got snatched up and turned in some pretty specific directions... whence came the craze. Fortunately (by my estimation), it got a re-boost in a different direction, both from folks like Jim who worked within the over-genre but not in the craze subgenre, and from folks like Jim's wife who have taken the craze's direction and reappropriated it in a less craze-oriented direction.

... bah. I still dislike excessively-meticulous categorization of this sort, especially when something doesn't quite belong to one or another.

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Author Craft / Re: Are Readers Growing Tired of New Urban Fantasy?
« on: January 31, 2012, 03:28:40 PM »
The hipster syndrome ("it's cool now, so I don't think it's cool") is a fairly basic human reaction; we crave newness. UF, for example, just plain didn't appeal to me for quite a while, because it seemed that it was all just retreading old stuff with fluffy new looks. Then TDF came along, and it rode those clichés like rented mules... and made the genre interesting to me.

And every now and then, something truly new comes along. Take my current bookstore-commando mission: Myke Cole's Shadow Ops: Control Point. Technically under the aegis of UF, but it's modern military fantasy and takes ooooooooold concepts and remixes them in a new way. I highly recommend it. http://mykecole.com/products-bibliography

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Site Suggestions & Support / Re: Iago, you are a genius
« on: January 28, 2012, 12:20:43 PM »
Gak.  So long as it's not one of those gawdawful Trying-to-be-profound montages with the sad girl drinking a glass of water and staring at a dirty spoon while pondering her sadness ones.

"I had a glass of water and was paralyzed remembering another time I had a glass of water and things were sad."

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Site Suggestions & Support / Re: Iago, you are a genius
« on: January 23, 2012, 03:58:18 AM »
We need a montage.

An 80s-movie gettin'-stuff-done montage? Or a 90s-movie gearing-up-for-battle montage?

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Site Suggestions & Support / Re: Iago, you are a genius
« on: January 22, 2012, 12:29:34 PM »
Thanks to you and the spousal lady!  Been itchin' fiercely to ramble and rant with my friends here.

They have a cream for that. But it doesn't handle the psychological side; you'll be itch-free but curled up in the corner, rocking and staring blankly into space.

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Site Suggestions & Support / Re: paying up for the forums
« on: January 04, 2012, 01:52:33 AM »
Serack! Where ya been?

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Author Craft / Re: Blasted format question help?
« on: December 29, 2011, 05:25:37 AM »
Ahh, I'll try Google Docs and see if that clears it up.

And yes, they never want an attachment of any kind, so it's the query followed by five or 15 or 50 pages--whatever they request. I certainly don't want to take the time to re-type that many pages and I'd just mess it up anyway. The times that I did type it in, they still didn't arrive at another location properly. So Google Docs it is--I hope.

Thanks Shecky!

One other option: if you and the recipient both have the capacity to insert/read in-message images, try doing it as a PDF. Horribly bulky, but it's absolutely accurate.

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Author Craft / Re: Blasted format question help?
« on: December 28, 2011, 10:49:43 PM »
Are you talking about copying the text into the body of an e-mail? Never really a good idea unless you and the recipient are both on the same platform (I have a PC at home and a Mac at work, and I can attest that Macs do have weird auto-reformatting issues just the same) using the same email service on the same browser. Same goes for sending a separately attached document (need to have the same word-processing program, same edition and same platform to be almost completely sure to prevent auto-reformatting nonsense). In truth, I'd actually recommend Google Docs, to be honest; it seems to hold up across those potential incompatibility-wracked problem-inducers.

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The Bar / Re: Edumacation And Enlearnment
« on: December 26, 2011, 12:47:29 PM »
B.S. in Marketing!!!

Which immediately qualifies you to work in the Redundancy Department of Redundancy.

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Author Craft / Re: Using it as a pronoun...
« on: December 20, 2011, 07:21:42 PM »
Singular they is great. You do have a precedent of "it," though. In Lois McMaster Bujold's Vorkosigan Saga, there's a bigendered character who uses it as its primary pronoun. It takes a page or two to get used to, but then you're fine.

If you do want to use gender-neutral pronouns, I recommend Spivak pronouns (e/em/eir).

~Duk

I'm still not a big fan of made-up pronouns (see above re: The Forever War); as a contemporary reader, I find myself taken a bit outside the story because it feels artificially imposed. And while some people say "they" works well because Shakespeare used it, it's an insufficient reason - there are a lot of usages in Shakespeare that have fallen out of the language... and "they" still feels plural to me, which is counter to the bigendered-but-single-self concept.

The real key is making it feel natural in the context, and that's purely a situational thing that depends on the writer, the text and the audience.

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Author Craft / Re: Different races in sword and horse fantasy
« on: December 17, 2011, 10:47:02 PM »
I don't mind the traditional races much.  They're like any cliche, they don't really have impact.  The author says "elf" and my mind slaps a whole catalogue of traits onto them and we go on.  Traditional races, for me, are elves, dwarves, and possibly halflings. 

I don't mind new, as long as the author doesn't seem like he's trying too hard. "Um... they're um... people made entirely of... like... salt. Yeah. That's new, right? RIGHT?!"  Make them even semi-logical to the setting and I'll play along.

I really, really hate "they have pointy ears and live really long and are big into nature and are great archers and are called re'faji."  No, they're elves.  Don't do this.  Don't ever do this.  If you do this and we meet, I will fling things at you. Possibly only invective, what with me not wanting a battery charge, but nonetheless the hatred will be there.

Heh. Little project I'm half-assedly working on has the standard races but with the race "standards" out the window.

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Author Craft / Re: Using it as a pronoun...
« on: December 15, 2011, 07:32:50 PM »
OR, create a new pronoun of your own creation for your new world  for this genderless shapeshifter. It always implies an inaniment object to me. SHapeSHift - shsh? LOL  Anyone seen this done in something?

Joe Haldeman created multi/nongendered pronouns/articles for a particular time's society in The Forever War. To me, that's a real stumbling block to reading; I'd still stick to "it" until the shifter self-identifies as a gender.

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