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DF Spoilers / Re: I wonder how long Raith has had his protection.
« on: June 19, 2021, 03:23:59 AM »
I assume before, because Maggie had to do something clever and indirect instead of overtly destructive. She probably knew what she was getting around.

Seeing as it's powered by anchoring to her two sons, I wonder if her clever trick was that one of the batteries was Lord Raith's son and the other was a latent Starborn. It would make a degree of sense, especially if the sponsor was indeed an Outsider. It would be interesting to see if Harry can tag Lord Raith directly now that he's (mostly?) activated as a Starborn, and Eb's reaction if so.

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DF Spoilers / Re: About those Titans
« on: June 19, 2021, 03:14:38 AM »
It's deeper than that.  They Sidhe are connected to many things people do believe in.  The Winter and Summer Courts are actually tied to humans belief in weather events.  That being said, the Brothers Grimm were trying to come up with a way to cut ties to the NeverNever I think.

The reverse. In Backup Thomas mentioned that the Venatori had been trying to get the Faerie pantheons forgotten, but the Grimms' work in compiling  the folk stories and Gutenberg's printing press spread them beyond the Venatori's capacity to tamp down.

It's actually a fairly interesting bit of lore, because kneecapping Winter would have been a terrible idea to go through with. Either the Archive passed that order in ignorance of Faerie's cosmic importance, or her command and control over the Venatori subject to infiltration.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Young Wizards
« on: June 19, 2021, 03:05:58 AM »
Well I think Carlos completely understands what happened between him and Molly wasn't Harry's fault.

Not personally. But it was a hard lesson in 'what Winter turns people into' that he would have misinterpreted even worse than it was.

I don't think he was lucid enough to overhear Mab's explanation. As far as he's concerned, Molly was probably getting off on luring him into a hotel room and beating him within an inch of his life.

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DF Spoilers / Re: It didn't make sense to me (Harry/Starborn/created)
« on: June 17, 2021, 07:22:08 PM »
Here is what seems to be contradictory to me from Drakul ""I would tell you to ask of your own White Council what they aren't telling you, what they bred you for, and what they expect you to do"
This just doesn't seem correct...  Maggie was considered crazy by the Council, I don't see the Council trusting her with something like this, and yet based on what Drakul said, it sounds like the White Council was behind Harry being born.

Drakul is so far above mortals he probably doesn't pay a lot of attention to the difference between a cabal of shady wizards (Maggie, Justin, possibly Cowl and Peabody and some other unsavory buddies) and the official Council. Some wizards trying to instigate a starborn? Must be a Council weapons-breeding program. As a baddie, it's natural to assume other supernatural nation-states do evil thing on an official capacity, rather than a rogues gallery.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Young Wizards
« on: June 16, 2021, 02:58:32 AM »
I'd assume Harry's stock is in the tank with most of the wardens, for the same reason Butters' faith in him was shaken.

As the Fomor rose up, he took no hand in helping fight the good fight. I'm not sure it's public knowledge among the wardens that he killed the Reds and opened the niche for the fomor, but if so, that's all the worse.

And he's never explained to any of them why he was indisposed even after coming back from the almost dead, so he never got a chance to settle things like he did with Butters.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Wild WAG Sunday
« on: June 13, 2021, 04:46:55 PM »
And of course Molly then becomes MAB later. So she killed herself, somehow, and later travels back in time. At which point early-Harry/Merlin will cast her out to become the cold Mab from the current still-human Molly.

Then how would Corb remember her as, apparently, a teenager? She's already twenty-something.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Wild WAG Sunday
« on: June 08, 2021, 01:11:25 AM »
Maeve and Sarissa were the product of Mab and some other Winter Knight's mating.

There was a WOJ that their father was a "famous Austrian composer" ... and I don't think any of them went down in history as notably brutal figures.

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DF Spoilers / Re: What is your favorite part and why?
« on: June 08, 2021, 01:07:14 AM »
I only do whole book rereads, but the part that always makes me smile would have to be Sue. Who doesn't love a fine bit of rules-lawyering?

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DF Spoilers / Re: When Mac speaks.
« on: June 07, 2021, 12:20:46 AM »
You could be right, however I don't know if he'd want to go against the Council, and he said himself he doesn't believe he is qualified on his own.  It could be he meets with Martha, Eb, and Rashid and makes the decision  to tell.

Martha wasn't injured. Unless she just didn't make it back to Edinburgh - in which case, who ratted him out over killing the turtlenecks? - the unanimous vote to put him on capital probation implies his display with the little folk and his actions during the battle scared her enough to flip her vote against him.

Eb is probably also going to be outright adversarial once the engagement to Lara gets announced.

Rashid is the only one of their pseudo-bloc on the Senior Council who would probably still speak in Harry's favor to LtW, assuming he's even one of the ones LTW felt obliged to consult. I'd bet River Shoulders is another outside the Council, so training with him to establish further trust would probably be a step in the right direction toward being clued in.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Uriels previous wars?
« on: June 05, 2021, 07:33:51 PM »
If I had to guess I'd say it goes - Outsider/Old One war, War in Heaven, Titan/gods war.

Seems likely. Although from the context in SG of talking about wars fought before the earth even existed, I would take it that particular comment was referring to the Old Ones and the Fallen rebellion ... I think any conflict with the pagan pantheons would have been after.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Who is Nicodemus?
« on: May 27, 2021, 03:31:50 AM »
I tend towards the opinion that someone who makes a point to hunt down and destroy the Church's records on him every few centuries to remain mysterious to his adversaries probably isn't going to be openly wearing his real identity as a recorded biblical figure.

He probably appropriated the name as some mix of deflecting from his actual identity and a dark joke.

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DF Spoilers / Re: What happens after...
« on: May 27, 2021, 03:24:49 AM »
Is it confirmed that Mother Winter is Hecate underneath the mantle?

No, just my WAG. Could easily be wrong - maybe the original Hecate persona either sacrificed herself to accomplish the division, or left the game after giving away the bulk of her power to the Sidhe.

But if a goddess of dark witchcraft was going to hang on to any of the queen mantles for her own, the biggest one of Winter is a really good fit. She's basically only legs on her hut away from Baba Yaga. And drive to carry on the purpose for which she split her power would explain not retiring to match the previous Mother Summer who grew tired of her role and abdicated the Mother mantle to her Queen.

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DF Spoilers / Re: What happens after...
« on: May 24, 2021, 07:25:01 PM »
The fae were sponsored to be the primary guardians of the Outer Gates. The sponsor set up the courts. Once their purpose is fulfilled, the sponsor will withdraw their sponsorship, most likely.

I kind of figured the deal there was Hecate was that sponsor, and she kept the Mother Winter mantle for herself when spinning off the others. If that's the case, I'm not sure it's a revocable action ... what was meant to be divided, and all that.

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DF Spoilers / Re: What would be a counter to Carlos?
« on: May 19, 2021, 05:55:00 PM »
As I said before, what information does Bob have or power does Bob have that Anduriel couldn't provide? Anduriel has so much more that he is a whole different weight class by several orders of magnitude, even limited as he is, let alone unbound.

I don't doubt Bob knows less than the Fallen overall, but he might well know things they don't - he described his own specialties as knowing a lot about magic but very little about faith stuff. It's pretty notable that Lash never tried to use "oh, I already know what the darkhallow is, because awesome fallen knowledge base" as temptation material in DB, when Bob did have that (albeit locked away).

That's probably not of immediate use to Nic or Anduriel. But Marcone/Namshiel could probably find a use for him if Butters and Harry aren't careful enough to keep him away.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Harry and Kemmler
« on: May 18, 2021, 12:49:23 AM »
Cowl was insulted to be called a Kemmlerite thought. He thought Kemmler was a madman. Even Mab thought so. I think perhaps some admired his genius and maybe agreed with some of his methods - but clearly Cowl and Kumori have different goals to Kemmler.

Wasn't his whole "I'm not like them" speech in front of Kumori, then when he's talking to Harry alone he's quite open about how his relationship with the other disciples is collegial for the greater glory of Kemmler on the surface, while plotting to kill each other as soon as convenient?

Anything he says in front of Kumori has to be interpreted through the lens of keeping the delusional apprentice convinced they're doing good works through grey methods.

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