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DF Spoilers / Re: any word on Jim?
« on: March 04, 2022, 06:15:48 AM »
I hope he lives to a hundred. I hope he writes 100's of books.  I'm just saying that I won't be reading them if I have to pay. There are hundreds of thousands of book that are finished that I haven't read yet. So assuming he doesn't run off the rails I'll get my Dresden fix at the Library.  If he can make me wait years I can wait the additional months to check out either the audio book or the hardcover.
Amen.. Edit, edit,edit...  When the books are coming out three to five years apart and the plan is over twenty books the years catch up to everyone..  Ten books three years apart, that's thirty years. Ten books five years apart, that's fifty years!  Stories can be dragged out too long and start to repeat themselves and even get a bit silly..

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DF Spoilers / Re: Demonreach's spells and Turn Coat
« on: March 03, 2022, 10:43:30 PM »
Maybe they haven’t been able to develop a counter other than run away, which is what happened, as with the runes if you can’t counter it, avoid it.

Perhaps the counter would have been to ‘eat’ LTTW and gain the ability.

Of course, the runes were written by the great Wizard Tim!  Shaggy also knew there was a killer rabbit lying in wait for him... So what else was he to do?  RUN AWAY!!!!  :o

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DF Spoilers / Re: Who is Thomas talking to?
« on: March 03, 2022, 06:24:37 PM »
Remember, yes we saw exactly how memories are used by ghosts.

As weapons.

In the case of Bianca it was the memory of being murdered by her that got her killed.  If there wasn't any connection like that, would they have killed her or orders?  They had a choice, what they wanted was vengeance.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Star Born (direct quotes compilation)
« on: March 03, 2022, 06:22:31 PM »
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Not so sure I agree that Margaret was intended to be used by the White Council, but it's possible. I think she rebelled for far more ordinary reasons though, like having an authoritarian mentor/parent and disliking how the Council operates and bullies others...just like Harry. Ebenezar and Luccio effectively tell us this anyway.

The evidence for that is in my opinion is the fact that she apparently knew the significance of on and how to conceive of one.  Now it is possible I guess that it was Lord Raith that was pushing her for this.  Wouldn't he have loved a star born child that he could use as a weapon? Provided of course it was female, a male child especially a star born one would have been seen as a threat.  So I don't think that happened, and while the idea of star born children may be general knowledge, the details of how to conceive one is another matter.  Apparently the Senior Council has this knowledge, Eb wasn't a member at that time, but as Blackstaff with the job perhaps of taking one out from time to time, he'd need the knowledge.  I think the real reason the Merlin wanted Eb to observe and possibly wipe out young Harry wasn't because he feared he'd revert to warlock, but because he knew Harry was star born.  And just how did that know this?  I mean they may have had Harry's birthday, but did they have the other information about him?  That tells me they knew very well what Margaret had done, and had been a part of it at one time.
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I think it must be difficult to identify star born up to a point...similar to how Rashid even struggles to detect Nemesis (or Uriel for that matter). Obviously people know about Harry now that he is starting to use that power, but I wonder about others. Because Elaine could be yet has seemingly remained undetected by the White Council (although not by the Black Council perhaps). Obviously Outsiders know them, considering the power star born can wield against them. But I wonder how easy it is to find them? To identify them once found? Particularly if they haven't been using their power.
Is it?  I mean several characters have come out and called Harry a star born without much trouble. Harry doesn't have a tat too on his forehead proclaiming it, so without additional information how did they know?  Now HWWB didn't seem to have any trouble, though he didn't come right out and call him a star born.  Do Outsiders make a habit of visiting and checking out possible star born confidantes?
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4. It could also be a prophecy-type deal that once the person is told, it certain events in motion, and maybe everyone is building up their forces and defenses to ensure that they are ready for what comes next. Several beings have hinted they want as much power as possible when things kick off. Titania also implied to Mab that some sort of threshold had been crossed, a milestone that means those very things are about to happen (relatively speaking).

But Harry has always known since White Knight that he was different because of how his mother and father conceived him, he had power over Outsiders.  Also from the soul gaze with Thomas, Margaret told him that it might be unfair the burden her and his father placed on him.  Also in Harry's vision/dream of Malcolm, he repeated what Margaret said.  As late as Peace Talks Eb told Harry he can deal with Outsiders, yet Harry hasn't used that knowledge to go Outsider hunting.
So he knows quite a bit, but unless there is some more to the huge reveal, why not tell him?  I think a lot of people will have a lot to answer for once Harry knows, that is why no one is sitting him down and telling him the whole truth.. I include the Winter Court in that, I think they had a lot to do with why Margaret ultimately made her decision.. Andthat'swhy Harry is really going to be pissed at Lea for becoming his godmother, he is going to be pissed at the whole Winter Court.. Hell yeah, he will feel used and abused in the typical fashion that only Harry Dresden can feel.. ::)

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DF Spoilers / Re: Who is Thomas talking to?
« on: March 03, 2022, 11:04:36 AM »
I think as long as Mort TALKED, rather than controlled, he was OK. They watched him just in case.  Sue was OK as she was not human. Like Harry can toast a vampire, but not a human.

Indeed, same is true of Harry, and Bianca opened the door, in desperation he called to her victims
as she was trying to kill him.  He asked them to remember, they did and did the rest.

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DF Spoilers / Re: any word on Jim?
« on: March 02, 2022, 09:58:59 PM »


  Well, some of us are just afraid we will never live to see how it all ends..

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DF Spoilers / Re: Who is Thomas talking to?
« on: March 02, 2022, 09:55:57 PM »
Actually necromancy isn’t just raising zombies, it includes raising and manipulating shades.

When Donald Morgan went to harass Harry, he would always make a side trip to harass Mort because Ectomancy was considered too close to Necromancy. The big difference, the former works with the dead consensually, the latter against their free will. Mort was quite right to distressed by what Harry did with the Lecters, and that was out of Harry’s ignorance. That’s the third instance of Harry’ necromancy, and third time is the charm.

Yet they never nailed Mort did they?

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DF Spoilers / Re: any word on Jim?
« on: March 02, 2022, 02:43:36 PM »
Agree. Also i do not buy audiobooks.
That said, I have several books both in kindle and in paper. I like to read them anywhere with my kindle, no matter where I am. But I also like the feeling of the paper pages and the look of them in my shelves (for reasons I explained later, I stopped doing that, too expensive. So I do not own SG, PT or BG hard copies. Perhaps one day).

I agree, call me old fashioned but I prefer a real book with real paper pages in my hands when I cuddle up at night to read and relax.  Now I do have a Kindle and have used it to get the anthologies and to get older books that are now mostly out of print, if they are available at all, are more affordable in the Kindle format.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Star Born (direct quotes compilation)
« on: March 02, 2022, 12:05:08 PM »
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Truth is though, nowhere has it been said star born are good or intended as such. In fact, Jim has said the opposite is effectively true. Given the reactions of various beings who know about star born I would say that it is consistent. They view them as weapons, as destructive elements, as tools to shape the future. The "good" guys seem scared of them. The bad guys seem to want to use them.

I don't disagree, however I would add that the White Council wanted to be part of this game as well. I has written a while back that they also had intended to use Margaret to get their own advantage.  That is why she rebelled in the first place against them and for a while went off the deep end.  Then she stumbled across pure goodness, it changed her and in her love for Malcolm she decided that mankind was worth saving.  There was better way to throw a monkey wrench in everyone's plans,which the conception with Malcolm and birth of Harry did. 

The series has also has balance as a consistent theme, with Malcolm as Harry's father Margaret
balanced out the darkness with the light.  Oh Harry does have many of the dark qualities that make
a star born, but he also has just as many of the qualities that make up a good man from his father.
This is what sets him apart from the rest of the star born.  However none of it explains why no one will sit him down and tell him the truth about what he is and what he was meant to do.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Who is Thomas talking to?
« on: March 02, 2022, 04:54:24 AM »
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But Sue wasn't Harry's first act of necromancy; he had another stand-out instance:  defeating Bianca, by summoning a vast number of shades.  Notwithstanding the "weakened barriers" making that easier, we have to note that Harry:

That isn't the definition of necromancy though, he called up ghosts, true, but did he reanimate their corpses, making them zombies? No.. Nor did he use them to foretell the future.

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noun. a person who uses witchcraft or sorcery, especially to reanimate dead people or to foretell the future by communicating with them: In the story, the boy is killed by a serial killer and then revived as a zombie by a necromancer.

Nor was he brought up on charges before the Council for necromancy at the end of Grave Peril.. And since those shades were human unlike Sue he would have been brought up for breaking one of the Seven Laws of Magic.. So patently just calling up shades isn't considered necromancy. Or more to the point like he did in Changes, Harry reversed the vamp attack on him, it was perhaps the first indication the the Red Court in their lust for power or revenge don't really think things through.. 

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DF Spoilers / Re: Star Born (direct quotes compilation)
« on: March 01, 2022, 09:51:43 PM »
I hadn't connected this before, but it doesn't make much sense that the Winter Lady before Maeve would have died (assuming that's what he means by "not fared so well") last time a starborn was running around, if the cycle is 666 years and Maeve & Sarissa's father being the "famous Austrian composer" dates them as born not likely earlier than the 1600's.

So there pretty much must have been two Winter Ladies under Mab before Maeve got the role.

Was it running around or working for the Winter Court?  Also just because a flock of them are born once every 666 years, they apparently don't have the same life spans, some may live to be thirty, or 300 or immortal, so it does fit.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Star Born (direct quotes compilation)
« on: March 01, 2022, 07:12:09 PM »
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I wouldn't worry too much about random numbers Butcher pulled out of his butt.  Chicago didn't exist 666 years ago. Since he set the books in Chicago he therefore must center the story around that locale.  The idea of Demonreach is the weakest because of that choice. It's 4000 miles from London. No one from the era of Hastings had any idea at that moment that 5 freshwater lakes existed in North America.  And no one other than someone who walked here knew of North America. How Merlin figured this out is a mystery. The Caspian Sea is the largest lake and it isn't in Chicago. So if you needed a big lake and were in Europe you would have went East and not West to find your fresh water lake.  In any sense where logic applies the fact that Demonreach exists in Chicago implies it exists because someone in Chicago today put it there for some reason.
I agree as far as Chicago goes, that it didn't exist 666 years ago is valid.  However since we've seen the short that Alfred played for Harry back in Cold Days as to how Merlin built the island, where it is located loses it's importance. Okay, one answer is the Leylines at that point, but it is also suggested that what makes those Leylines so potent is the gods/monsters in the prison feeding the energy. Or could it be the Leylines is the only thing holding them in prison?  It becomes the classic chicken or the egg scenario. The difficulties I see since Alfred has a limited range, aside from Merlin, who were the other Wardens of the island with the kind of juice needed to bind these monsters and then get them close enough for Alfred to throw them in the slammer?  Yes, the only obvious solution is the monsters were drug through the Nevernever to the island.. But that seems really risky to me, what if one got loose?  Or is that even possible once it was bound?
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It comes from a WOJ just after Battle Ground I believe. Jim was asked about how many were running around and he said 40-50, 000 this cycle which doesn't account for previous cycles. And he said the cycles have been going since the beginning of Creation. It's to do with Lucifer's messing around.

Which, unless the point of having that many is for Harry to unite into a star born army to repel an Outsider invasion, is a real disappointment.  One also has to ask, what is the point?  I mean out of the fifty thousand born this cycle, how many have the talent or are even aware of or care about Outsiders?  More to the point, if they are so common, aside from the Outsider thing, what is so special about them that they are basically top secret information?  What is the White Council afraid of? Would they rather Harry got the story from Drakul or Listen?  Now that has the potential for fake news that could really do some damage. 

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DF Spoilers / Re: Star Born (direct quotes compilation)
« on: March 01, 2022, 12:02:39 PM »
The problem is that how do we reconcile the special circumstances of the star born creation with the fact that 40-50,000 were created in a single cycle.

Is this usual per cycle? Is it more? Less?

Hence why I think Chicago is the necessary location...rather than 50,000 different babies being prepared in different locations.

Or is that resolved by most of the babies born during that cycle don't make it to adulthood?  Fifty thousand star born babies born around the world might work, but not all in Chicago, world wide there are only 350,000 kids born each day.  Also apparently September through December are the highest birth months..  My own four grand-kids fit into that one, and they were all born in Chicago. 
Also in centuries past, if you take into that number not just the rate of live births but infant mortality have to be taken into account.  Accordingly at least half of the children born as star born would have died 666 years ago before reaching puberty, I did look it up, today only about 2.9% die before reaching puberty today.  According to what I read, the birth rate hasn't changed that much, but the rate of survival has, that is why we now have a population problem.   

Anyway, I go back to my original premise, if the birth rate for a star born is that high, even if it takes place only once every 666 years there is nothing really special about it in my opinion.  On par perhaps with White Court Vampires.  Also while fifty thousand were born under that light, how many of their parents went through the various rituals to make it an actual fact?  As in fifty thousand potential star borns born, but out of that maybe five or only one actually are, because of how their conception and birth was brought about.  That would solve why Justin adopted both Elaine and Harry, both had the potential, but so far unless we learn different, only one turned out to be one... Or it is Harry Potter and Nevil Longbottom all over again...

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DF Spoilers / Re: Star Born (direct quotes compilation)
« on: February 28, 2022, 06:48:35 PM »
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Presumably it only affects those born "in the that light" i.e. the spot light (which I am sure would occur during the night/early morning). So I would presume it's quite literally a cosmic light, hitting one side of the planet. That would include all of North America (USA, Canada), Central America, Cuba and the Central American islands, Mexico, the most nothern parts of South America (i.e. parts of Brazil etc), parts of the Artic Circle, the western part of Russia, parts of Japan, parts of China, parts of Korea, parts of New Zealand and Australia (and a number of Pacific Islands), and some parts of South-East Asia.

My guess is though it isn't all of them surely, for the number would be higher. It will be a literal thing like "born under a blood moon" type of thing. Will it matter if the births are indoors? Not sure. Will the babies need to be sanctified? Not sure. Will those who are in the light who are not babies be affected? Unclear.

So many questions.

Indeed, that is why I think that the "conceiving" of a star born is at least as complicated as time of birth and place of birth.  It is obvious that Harry's birth was no accident, once she met Malcolm, Margaret did a great deal of planning to bring Harry's birth about.  What is more I think Malcolm did a lot more than just supply the sperm at the right time.  I say this because in both his dream/soul gaze sequences when Harry talks with his father and his mother they both express regret for what they put on him, an innocent, by their plans.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Who is Thomas talking to?
« on: February 27, 2022, 09:42:59 PM »

  As I said, one robin doesn't make a spring..  One attempt at necromancy doesn't make an necromancer... Having the skill to be one is one thing, but actually being one is another, Harry has too much respect for the Seven Laws, though now that he is booted out of the Council that may change.
Still I cannot see Harry drumming up a bunch of zombies anytime soon..


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