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DF Spoilers / Re: Notes on Contagion
« on: August 05, 2021, 03:56:42 PM »
Quote from: Yuillegan on August 04, 2021, 06:40:01 AM
Maybe not every big bad...but I'd assume a fair amount of them. Particularly the earlier case files.
Also, SA, we have confirmation I believe of Sells and Kravos being infected. I agree they seem odd choices but I suspect the reasons for them won't be revealed until we find out a bit more about Nemesis.

Eh ... I wouldn't take Lily's list as authoritative. She was extensively misled.

There was a WOJ that the first nemfected character appeared 'on stage' in Grave Peril, so I think Sells is in the influenced but not infected category. I'm still uncertain whether he was talking about on the literal stage with Bianca at the party scene, or just on page in a general sense.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Damn, Maeve really did win
« on: August 05, 2021, 02:40:48 PM »
Quote from: morriswalters on August 05, 2021, 12:45:45 AM
I don't think that the infection works like that. I think it's an amplification of something that is in everybody, some weakness.  And the infection acts like a reinforcement of that weakness.

Agreed. I don't think it's a knowledge-sharing psychic internet between infectees. Maeve implied she was going to have Justine forcibly infected afterward if she won on the island. So either she didn't even know, or she was saying that to reinforce Justine's cover in case she lost. I don't think she even conceived failing as a possibility at that point.

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DF Spoilers / Re: What will Eb do?
« on: August 05, 2021, 02:33:23 PM »
Quote from: TrueMonk on August 05, 2021, 06:40:46 AM
Yes a large caliber bullet to the head would (perhaps) kill the other WC vampires, but I think they are also in a totally different weight class than him.

Kincaid probably deals in ammunition that would do more like decapitation than hole-through-head, but Ebenezar possibly hates Kincaid even more than he does Lord Raith, so there's no way he's going there for a contract. Kincaid would probably refuse a contract there anyway on the premise Eb was probably setting him up to go on a suicide mission.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Damn, Maeve really did win
« on: August 03, 2021, 08:39:22 PM »
Quote from: Griffyn612 on August 02, 2021, 01:40:16 AM
Then she had true love protection, which makes her ideal as an assistant for Lara, as she's untouchable to internal manipulation. But yeah, the mental clarity should have rung bells. It's just hard to know if that was due to character growth, plot necessity, or specific cause.

I'd attributed it to Lara sponsoring appropriate mental health treatment. Which she may have been doing quite in addition to the Nemesis infection - she pretty well had to take steps to replace the stabilizing effects of Thomas' feeding in order to change a deeply ill hostage into a high-functioning executive assistant. She had no idea Beside was already steadying the wheel from the passenger seat, so to speak.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Damn, Maeve really did win
« on: August 03, 2021, 08:32:41 PM »
Quote from: morriswalters on August 01, 2021, 09:37:13 PM
But Mab knew that, where Harry was, Molly was.  Mab won. The mantle was never in danger. The hapless mortal would have been Murphy, Justine was Maeve's ally.

Was Karrin even a compatible vessel? I think but for Molly, the mantle might have gone flying off the island entirely to some random changeling who'd been having sufficient contact with their Sidhe kin to qualify.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Did Carlos betray Dresden? Other things in the book
« on: August 01, 2021, 09:49:52 PM »
Maybe she was right about the Council only fighting for the chance to take the Eye as a prize, maybe not. She's severely misjudged Harry's own motivations before, particularly in the case of mentoring Molly. Could be she's falling into the same trap of reading everyone else as plotting for their own self-interest.

Personally, I think the Council would have been at least as concerned about the blowback from kicking the mortals' beehive extending to them as trying to come up holding the eye in the aftermath. They've got bad institutional (and in a few cases, possibly personal) memories of one Inquisition and the general witch hunting era.

I figure they were operating on a complicated mixed agenda of protecting the innocent, dropping enough bodies with gills to point the retaliation back into the water, and keeping the eye out of any of the worst-case hands, with their own as the preferred option.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Did Carlos betray Dresden? Other things in the book
« on: August 01, 2021, 12:55:55 PM »
Quote from: groinkick on July 31, 2021, 12:09:58 AM
Does the Council know something about Mab that Dresden is clueless about?  Nemfected suspected?  Two people told Harry that a big part of him being kicked out was Mab.  Carlos said it started with Mab, and Eb said that him working with her was a factor. 
I know that Mab isn't a "good person", but to my knowledge she protects reality from Outsiders, ...  But the Council is against Outsiders so it shouldn't be a factor.

I don't think most of the council are aware of either the existence of Nemesis or Winter's role in defending the Gates. Rashid seemed to indicate that isn't shared with even all the other senior councilors unless they need to know, let alone general membership. Most of them just see the "Mab is not a good person" aspect.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Gregor?
« on: July 26, 2021, 11:30:10 AM »
Didn't Charity say Gregor went mad when Michael killed his patron?

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DF Spoilers / Re: new soulfire though
« on: July 23, 2021, 03:18:22 AM »
Quote from: toodeep on July 23, 2021, 01:31:18 AM
I wonder if homes of things without souls have thresholds?  That would ruin that idea, but I think it worth discussing.

I'd lean no on that. The framing was always for human homes. Near-human species like forest people or whampires might be able to form a threshold (though I'm not sure the latter have fixed built homes, and the latter would presumably form extremely weak thresholds unless they're an unusual personality like Thomas').

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DF Spoilers / Re: 2 Questions from PT & BG
« on: July 20, 2021, 09:02:23 PM »
Quote from: bigdangmoose on July 20, 2021, 07:14:44 PM
Thorned issue- we assumed wrong that it was the fallen infected. By WoJ, an Angel can't be infected. But the host....

Was it basic angels who are too absolute and inflexible to infect, or just archangels?

But I've been wondering for a while whether Namshiel was framed by Tessa and/or Rosanna for the Arctis Tor hit.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Did Rashid kick Harry out of the White Council with an ulterior motive?
« on: July 19, 2021, 07:33:40 PM »
Quote from: Ed0517 on July 16, 2021, 07:18:39 AM
have to assume he was planning on using magic, against the Rules.

Immobilizing someone with magic and cutting his throat with a small concealed knife is perfectly legal for the Council
. Or, for that matter, bashing his head in with any handily available rock.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Dresdenverse Wishful Thinking - Locations
« on: July 18, 2021, 02:59:09 PM »
Quote from: Avernite on July 18, 2021, 12:12:01 PM
I would think some waterworks would be an excellent low-side-damage kind of duelling spot. The Niagara Falls,

Collateral damage to a dam is generally quite the opposite of casualty-mitigating for anyone living down-river.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Mab's plans with Harry
« on: July 17, 2021, 04:50:20 PM »
Quote from: seanham on July 17, 2021, 04:06:32 PM
enabling him to think more clearly and live a better life.

Except for being fed on, which has dangerous chronic effects even if she's careful not to drain him. And being subject to mental control by the whampire.

Plus, it would mean losing being walking kryptonite to any other Raiths.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Harry's soul - will it change?
« on: July 17, 2021, 04:25:36 PM »
Quote from: Mira on July 17, 2021, 05:10:28 AM
I thought the soul gaze only worked once.  Or rather I remember that was a topic here years ago, because the question has come up before.  What I cannot remember is if it was merely the consensus between us, if it was in one of the books or a WOJ, at any rate I believe it was quite a long thread.

It's in the books that it's one time, but there was a WOJ that massive personality changes might allow a second. Big enough changes are extremely rare though.

I'd be surprised if it's in the cards for Harry, but I do wonder if Maggie Sr's moral realignment was dramatic enough to cut it.

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DF Spoilers / Re: Mab's plans with Harry
« on: July 17, 2021, 03:37:50 AM »
Quote from: bigdangmoose on July 07, 2021, 05:35:14 PM
Mab cant touch Michael and his family and the Alphas are not on Mab's radar to be anything but a thorn in her side to be taken care of later.

Minor point, but as far as Mab is concerned, the Alphas probably count as effectively vassals of Harry after following him in the battles at the stone table and against the Fomor. She might temporarily require him to be isolated from all contact as on the island, but trying to break her knight's vassals away from him in particular is highly likely to be against Sidhe nature.

Plus, they're currently acting as bodyguards against all the threats that were previously cowed by not wanting to take on the Council or Ebenezar personally. Finding advantage in removing him from the Council is one thing, but even if she could plot to remove the knight's vassals, decreasing his survivability is bad business.

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