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DF Spoilers / Re: Marcone and Nicodemus allies?
« on: June 27, 2021, 02:42:37 PM »
Wait, how do we know Tessa didn't turn on Nico?
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Agreed, I also think if there are so many of them, what is so special about them? However here is another way to look at it, many babies are born every day with genius level I.Q.s, but very few for fill that promise or potential, and even fewer still are really remembered... As in there are many mathematicians and physicists with genius level intelligence, but very few of genius,as in Einstein,Newton, or Hawking.. Maybe it works the same way for star born?Pretty much. I think being born at a certain time is one component, but it's only one. I think there are others as well. Perhaps they have to be exposed to certain magics by a certain age. It's been speculated before that maybe they have to be exposed to outsider energy. That would reduce to the potentials significantly.
Number I dug up was 250 babies/hour. And this would have been in 1975, with a lower population- 4 billion vs. 7.8. So the rate was lower then.Hmm, I'm not sure. This site
I go around on what Elaine really is. Could a starborn have been put on ice since the last cycle? Tinfoil hats want to know!
Starborn are born at the right confluence in time. There's nothing that says a starborn must have talent. If there are 40,000-60,000 starborn at the start of this cycle, that's something like a 4-6 hour window where they could have been born.Eb says "for a few hours" every 666 years. The internet says there's 385,000 babies born per day, or 32,000 per hour.
If starborn need at least some level of talent- well, we don't have the numbers to calculate that, but it does stretch the window a bit.
Vadderung is an elemental being according to Gard and might have known Uriel from the beginning. He gave up power to stay involved.In Norse mythology, Odin is the son of Bor, who is the son of Buri, who was the creator of all the (Norse) gods. Buri just existed but was freed from his entombment/encasement/gestation/whatever by a cosmic cow that licked enough salt. The cow, Aušumbla, may have been a primordial entity, and coexisted with a primordial jotunn named Ymir, the first of his kind.
That certainly fits Seracks theory. It's slightly harder to work out whether the Light predates all the others as we don't have enough info. There's also a logic problem to some degree (probably beyond human comprehension) in that if all of those beings (Outsiders, Titans, Angels, TWG etc) all existed before time...there is no way to measure what/who was "first" (which becomes a meaningless concept to some degree).One theory is that there were a bunch of Beings in a place without time and form, and one of them decided to make something in that space without consulting the others. The Creator made Reality, and Light, and a Wall to keep out the Others, whom became Outsiders.
Agreed. I can't see Balor needing more energy...but then again maybe it's all about how much you can take with you. If you want access to you're full energy you have to break reality a bit, which seems like that might attract all kinds of attention.I think there was WoJ that the Mothers aren't on par with the archangels on a cosmic scale, but they're on par with them on an earthly scale, because both can destroy Earth with equal results. To humans directly under them, it doesn't matter if a massive boulder or an asteroid is heavier.
Don't forget that Zeus and the Mothers are ranked around the same level as the Archangels, which suggests they too likely don't have those limits. Then again, it's hard to say because we haven't seen any of them in the mortal world (as far as we know).
I have wondered about whether wizards are the decedents of gods and demigods etc. On the one hand, Jim says all mortals have the potential to wield magic and we know mortals have incredible psychic power but expressed in a totally unique way (the ability to create and shape reality with Free Will). On the other hand they seem to not be able to just dominate, and wizards seem to be apart from their less exciting kin. Maybe wizards were an attempt to combine that mortal free will and immortal power. Something in the Paranet Papers suggests the most powerful wizards basically were worshipped as gods (and I think one still was...Manco Capac or something).
Hmm. Not sure that adds up totally with Raith...unless he was the centrepiece of all their plans. Raith could be the anchor for all three Walkers. But I would assume he would be stronger. Clearly they also possess other bodies too and he shows no sign of being possessed by Before or Behind.I don't mean that he's possessed by all of them. I mean after spending millennia hoping mortals would summon them in ways that would give the Walkers the free rein to do what they need to do, they've suddenly got a willing partner in young Lord Rath.
Sadly I put this down to inconsistencies in the writing itself as much as in-universe reasons. Jim isn't immune to the main problem of fantasy story telling: there is always a trade-off between consistency of established in-universe rules and conventions, and the conventions of writing itself. Yes, great writers seem to get it right more often but none of them get it right all the time, and not even most of the time. It's a very difficult thing.
The in-universe reasons you gave are as good as any. There is a bit of magic feather stuff with Harry.
Also just as an aside I meant Blood Rites not Death Masks before, totally forgot that book was in there.
That...makes a lot of sense. I really like it. I have no idea if Jim will do that but I like it.I can speculate that more effort went into Raith's protection than normal host bodies, simply because of the importance of having that anchor in reality. If another Before, Beside, or Behind demon is banished, it's no big deal, because Raith can summon them back. He's the King to protect at all costs, so they put a little extra juice into it.
Only snag is that magic seems totally negated on Lord Raith, whereas the Before and Behind are still a little vulnerable to magic. I am not sure why Beside's central host body (Lord Raith in your theory) would be more protected than the others.
Depends on what the goals were. Are they trying to change the status quo in the world or defeat the Outsiders, or both?It could have started with Margaret learning of Winter's purpose, and seeing the Gates for herself. She decided she could play a role in ending the eternal conflict, and reached out to those she thought were powerful enough to help her do that. She assumed that everyone had a line they wouldn't cross, and that line was working with Outsiders.
Could well be right about the plot. Hard to see why else Harry came along.
The only problem with that theory Griff is that Maggie seems a bit naive in that scenario. Surely he would know at least Raith and Ariana, and any such dark beings, would wants to break the system for their own ends. No, I think Maggie got recruited to a group who she thought were going to improve the world by breaking a few eggs. A greater good type thing. Probably Cowl or someone like him was in charge. Cowl does already have a history of recruiting idealists. But when Maggie realized it was never anything more than a power grab/chance to cause chaos - she ran. Maybe also because she knew how horrible the end game was and decided she had to stop it. Who knows.I don't think she would think they'd do it altruistically. But I think she thought they'd all be on-board with winning that war once and for all. Because nobody would work with Outsiders, that's just crazy.
Why do you think He Who Walks Beside? I assumed it was Behind if anything because that's the one he summons in Death Masks (I think).I asked JB on Twitter a few years back if the human body Before was using in Cold Days was what was left of Vitto Malvora after the battle in Raith Deeps. He tongue-in-cheek said it was. (The mental whammy Vitto used and the mental whammy Before used were almost identical, so it fits).
Agree about the curse. I think that Death Masks actually says that's how Maggie made the curse stick. I suspect the reason the Hunger wasn't protected is because like all such deals, they're often never as good as they seem. Maybe the Outsider's wanted to leave a vulnerability to a potential competitor. Maybe they can't protect the Hunger at all. Impossible to say without more information.