NO SW!
There is a section for RPG and you have been put where it belongs.
The Bar was never intended for games like that and someone noticed.

So stop whining and complaining.

Beyond the gates, to my understanding, means outside of reality. I don't think we can be sure yet if it's outside of OUR reality, or outside of ALL realities. We know that there are beings/immortals who exist and understand existence beyond a single universe, there may be foils to those beings on our side beyond the Outer Gates, meaning the Outer Gates aren't bound to a single universe, but the battle to keep them out exists in all universes.

I guess a question I'd have for Jim is, did multiple universes always exist in the DV, or only once mortals and free will came into being?

It's not out of the question that Outsiders can be banished to beyond the gates during any point in history. Though, that then begs the question, why does DR exist, if undesirable immortals can be sent beyond the gates.

I'm very glad that Jim is feeling better and that the event has been rescheduled but I can't help but be disappointed that a 3 1/2 day notice just isn't enough time that I can get approval for leave from work to drive to KC. 

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