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DF Reference Collection / Re: Foxed's Crazy Theory Emporium
« on: January 16, 2015, 09:37:33 PM »
Mirror Mirror is the time travel book

We know that in Mirror Mirror, an evil Harry Dresden has been pulling alternate universe versions of himself into his universe, killing them, and leaving them behind as corpses to stay ahead of his enemies. Mirror Mirror is about him pulling the wrong Harry, Our Harry, through. For convenience sake, I will refer to DF-Harry (The Dresden Files Harry, our Harry) and MM-Harry (the (presumably self-aware and goateed) evil Harry seen in Mirror Mirror).

My theory is that the MM-verse is how Grave Peril would have ended without extra-temporal influence. The climax of Mirror Mirror will feature Harry breaking the law against time travel to ensure that Grave Peril will turn out the way it did in the DF-verse. He will then learn things about himself and, per Jim, Marcone (Word is MM-Marcone is the character to watch).

Our Harry may take the slow path back to the present, explaining much of Proven Guilty in the process. Or, as I suggest elsewhere, it's mental time travel and Harry becomes unstuck in time for the era between Grave Peril and Mirror Mirror, finally closing the book on time travel by the end.

That is not to say there aren't an infinite amount of universes and an infinite amount of Harries out there. It's just that there are a limited number of casefiles left, and time travel is the only Wizardly Sin not yet given a casefile of its very own. (Storm Front covered killing magic, Fool Moon's MacFinn covers baleful polymorph, Dead Beat covers necromancy[/i], Proven Guilty covers mental tampering, Turn Coat covers mental enthrallment, and Cold Days covers Outside knowledge). Mirror Mirror, already covering alternate universes, and explicitly alternate timelines, could very easily become the time travel book.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Foxed's Crazy Theory Emporium
« on: January 16, 2015, 09:36:54 PM »
Nemesis, Cowl, and the Circle

There is no Black Council. It's a hypothetical construct created by Harry to explain the connections he saw between his casefiles. Nemesis is what Harry calls the Black Council. Harry wasn't cleared to know about Nemesis when he joined Ebenezar's Grey Council, so Ebenezar utilized Harry's Black Council to explain it to Harry without revealing Nemesis to him.

There is a Circle, even if it is only a circle of Cowl's minions. But I posit that the Circle is an organization of self-aware Nemesis agents.

Operation Starborn was a Circle plot. We have Lord Raith involved in that operation, who is clearly connected to the Outsiders. We can also speculate that Arianna Ortega is part of Operation Starborn, given her presence at the dinner party. Maggie tried to recruit her father, and failed. She may have recruited another White Council wizard. (I suspect Cristos!)

Maggie, realizing that Nemesis was behind the Operation, fled the Circle and cut a deal with the Leanansidhe, an agent of the Grey Council.

What?

The Grey Council is the group Neuro calls Team UMO. We know that Vaderrung is an ally of the only known Grey Council agent, Ebenezar (unless I've misinterpreted the climactic battle at Chichen Itza in Changes), so I'll default to the canonical "Grey Council" over UMO. The Leanansidhe works for Mab. Ebenezar works with Vaderrung.

Cowl, I suspect, is Cristos. Arianna is Kumori.

Old Nick's contingent within the Knights of the Coin are also opposed to the Outsiders, but not members of the Grey Council.

It's pretty clear by now that the Outsiders are the big villain of the series, from Harry's origin story with He Who Walks Behind to the Big Apocalyptic Trilogy. Nemesis as the Black Council is the glue that holds the Outsiders in the main antagonist plot.

1. The Shadowman, given the Heart Asplode spell from a Nemesis agent. This spell is similar to the Familicide spell in Changes.
2. The Hexenwolves, given belts by a Nemesis agent.
3. Cowl and Kumori, Nemesis agents, appear onstage.
4. Aurora, either corrupted by Nemesis or driven insane by knowledge of Nemesis.
5. Nicodemus actively working against Nemesis.
6. Lord Raith.
7. Cowl and Kumori.
8. Maeve, corrupted by the Leanansidhe, manipulating Eldest Fetch, Lily, and Harry.
9. Lord Raith versus Cowl.
10. Nicodemus again with a diabolical plan to stop Nemesis.
11. Peabody, a Nemesis agent.
12. The Lords of Outer Night, agitated by Arianna Ortega, a Nemesis agent among their ranks.
13. The Fomor, who probably worship the Outsiders (to go along with the Lovecraft homages) appear onstage.
14. Maeve.
15. Nic. He is just the worst.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Foxed's Crazy Theory Emporium
« on: January 16, 2015, 09:35:31 PM »
Jim Butcher is hewing close to the Monomyth structure

I know, people around these parts are leery of Joseph Campbell's Hero's Journey thesis, but it fits the Dresden series pretty well, so we'd be overlooking something of importance by not examining where Harry is on Campbell's arc (and as evidence of its importance, I'm going to point out moments where TDF fits Campbell extraordinarily well) and where he has left to go.

I'm not grafting something crazy onto the Dresden mythos. I'd argue that Jim's deliberately following Campbell.

Without further ado!

To wit, the journey for the Hero is that he is called from Home to Adventure, masters the realm of Adventure, and returns home to master both realms. That's it. Campbell also calls it the monomyth, and his thesis is that it is the rough outline of every story ever told.

Chicago - The first three novels establish the home realm, Chicago.
1. The Call to Adventure - The Hero is offered the opportunity to leave home and adventure.
Summer Knight - Mab first offers Harry the mantle of the Winter Knight.

2. Refusal of the Call - The Hero does not accept the adventure at first.
Summer Knight, Dead Beat, Small Favor
Three times Harry refuses to take up the mantle.

3. Supernatural Aid - Generally, the Hero is helped at home before beginning his adventure.
Harry's got alot of aid from Winter, whether from his fairy godmother or from the Winter Queen herself.

4. Crossing the Threshold - Finally, the Hero goes on to the adventure realm, generally defeating a guardian standing between home and adventure.
Changes - Harry takes up the mantle to defend his family from the Red Court.

Threshold Guardian: The Lords of Outer Night

Winter Wonderland - The Realm of Adventure

5. The Belly of the Whale - Better classified, in my mind, as the crucible, the Hero becomes the Hero after being swallowed up by circumstance.
The Changes Trilogy
Harry overcomes threats to his family and friends, death itself, and is reforged by Mab in Cold Days into her Knight.

6. The Road of Trials - The Hero faces several trials (three's typically a good number!).
 Skin Game, Peace Talks, Mirror Mirror
Harry overcomes trials of the body and family in Skin Game, and definitely a trial of identity in Mirror Mirror. From Skin Game on, we're speculating.

7. The Meeting with the Goddess - Though oddly feminized by Campbell, this isn't necessarily an actual woman. Rather, it's a spiritual experience.
Mirror Mirror - My guess would be that Molly rescues her Knight from the mirror universe. Or some combination of Molly (maiden), Susan (mother), and Murph (NOT crone).

8. The Temptress - Again oddly gendered by Campbell, the temptation is something that might make the Hero step aside from his quest.
Mirror Mirror is totally going to end with Harry tempted to set right what once went wrong, and choose between the timeline that leads to him or a timeline where he's happy with Susan and Maggie.

9. Atonement with the Father - The Hero faces theheart of the quest, the struggle, generally with his identity and his father.
Book Twenty - Not necessarily a literal father. My guess is Old Nick is going to be the father figure, which means this will occur in the next Denarian book.

10. Apotheosis - And the Hero learns something from it.
Book Twenty - Goes hand-in-hand with the atonement.

11. The Ultimate Boon - The MacGuffin that is the goal of his quest.
Book Twenty - Come on, the actual, literal, Holy Grail? Too easy.

12. Refusal of the Return - Much like the Hero didn't want to go to adventure, now he doesn't want to go home.
Book Twenty One or Trilogy 1 - Jim said a couple books got added to the twenty original casefiles. Don't know if that pushes the Denarian book to the end or not, but if there are post-Denarian casefiles, it'll stretch the return of the journey across more books, give it room to breathe. Obviously this would be Harry choosing Winter over Chicago.

13. Magic Flight - The Hero is pursued homeward because of his boon.
Trilogy 1

14. Rescue from Without - The cavalry arrives.
Trilogy 1

15. Return Threshold - The Hero passes from Adventure to Home.
Trilogy 2 - Harry and his lady love or daughter pull a Tam Lin on Mab. She is... not pleased.

Threshold Guardian: Mab

Master of Two Worlds

16. Master of Two Worlds: Trilogy 3
Harry has to save the world in a way that reflects both his home and what he learned on his adventure.

17. Freedom to Live: Trilogy 3
Either for Harry, or at least for humanity.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Foxed's Crazy Theory Emporium
« on: January 16, 2015, 09:19:52 PM »
Jotunheim is Arctis Tor

ABSTRACT
TL;DR

The divide between the Faerie Courts coincided with the Fae assuming the defense of the Outer Gates, and also with the decline of paganism in Scandinavia. Previously, the Jotun had guarded the Outer Gates, and the Aesir had protected Midgard from the Jotun. However, with the decline of pagan worship, Odin, the Normans' chief god struck a deal with the Fairy Queens1, the Celts' chief goddesses, to ensure the defense of Reality.

The Creation of the Fairy Court

Hecate

Per Bob, Hecate was originally a Hag who achieved divinity through a bloody ascension rite.2 Mythologically, she's one of those weird pre-Olympian mystery goddesses infesting Greco-Roman paganism. The tri-part goddess statues in Hades' Vault3 lead us to conclude that the three Fairy Queen mantles are, together, Hecate in her triple goddess form (Mother, Maiden, Crone). Given the confusion in the real world over whether Hecate is the Crone or the trinity, I'd say it's fair to assume that she is both. At some point after her ascension, she spun off her power into the three mantles, and kept the Crone mantle for herself.

It is currently unknown to whom Hecate the Crone gave the other two mantles to, and I know I've shed pixels trying to pick Olympian divinities who could take the mantles. This makes no sense, however, as the Olympians have their own divinity, and would not need to accept more power from Hecate the Crone. Given the connection apparent between Hecate and the Fae, we must look elsewhere in Europe.

The Tuatha De Danann

The Tuatha De Danann are the predecessors to the Fairy Court. The Leanansidhe characterizes them thus when describing their enemy, the Fomor.4 Mythologically, they are the Celtic pantheon, but Christianity sapped their power, spinning them into heroes with supernatural powers instead of gods. I speculate that the Crone Hecate found her Mother and Maiden within this pantheon of not-quite divine figures. By binding the Mother, Maiden, Crone to the existing Tuatha De Danann, the Fairy Court arose from the Mantle-wearers and their followers.

The Defense of the Outer Gates

There exists a feud in mythology every bit as petty and deep as the feud between Winter and Summer. I am speaking of course, of the feud between the Aesir and the Jotun. I predict that, before the Fairy Court split, the Jotuns guarded reality from the Outsiders. There are easy parallels to make between the Frost Giants and the Winter Court, but two stood out to me:

1. Both have wells. Underneath the World Tree, according to the Eddas, on the path to Jotunheim, sits the Well of Mimir. It seems likely to me that this corresponds to the Winter Wellspring.

2. Jotunheim, of course, was on the edges of Ginnungagap, the primordial void from which reality was made. Winter, of course, finds itself on the edge of Reality at the Outer Gates.

It seems to me that the case can be made that Arctis Tor is built atop old Jotunheim, and that the Outer Gates were at one point defended by the Jotun. This would slot the Aesir into Summer's role, protecting Reality from the Jotun.

1066 - The Battle of Hastings

1066 is where this all comes together. The Norse Normans invade Celtic England even as Norse paganism is on the decline, and Christianity on the rise, in Scandinavia. The decline of paganism is a problem for the Aesir, as they aren't worshiped as much as in the past, and are losing power. This is not a problem for the Jotun, as they aren't worshiped as such in the first place. The invasion of England is a problem for the Fairy Court, as the people who tell their stories are getting slaughtered.

So Odin, chief god of the Normans, and the Fairy Queens, representatives of the English, meet to discuss terms. This is a blending of the various sources for British fantasy, the Norse, Celtic, and Greco-Roman religions. The end result is that the Jotun are banished (to team up with the Fomor), the Normans take England, and the Fairy Court splits to assume the defense of the Outer Gates. Hecate the Crone assumes the Mother Winter role. And she loses her walking stick.

Mab and Titania

My gut says that Mab was the Maiden at the time of the split. Then, during the split, the Crone Hecate became Mother Winter, The Maiden Mab promoted herself to Winter Queen, and the Mother became Summer Queen. For symmetry, Mab's twin sister, Titania, became the Summer Lady (where Mab started). When Mother Summer abdicated (I'm still going to guess this was Baba Yaga), the Summer Queen became Mother Summer, and Titania became Summer Queen.

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1. To distinguish the pre-division Court from the Summer and Winter courts, I will use Fairy Mother, Queen, Lady, Knight, and Court to describe the pre-division Court.

2. Welcome to the Jungle.

3. Skin Game.

4. Ghost Story.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Harry Naming Things
« on: December 01, 2014, 05:54:20 PM »
There's nothing magic about it, and maybe nothing conscious on Harry's part (then again, does Harry ever consciously Name someone?), but I think it does, in fact, matter.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Deirdre's Coin [Possible Spoilers]
« on: November 26, 2014, 01:12:43 PM »
I'd picture him wearing purple archmage robes with mist billowing out of him. Just because Hannah fell on the seduction side of Lasciel's talents doesn't mean Harry's Lasciel-form wouldn't represent her arcane knowledge.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Deirdre's Coin [Possible Spoilers]
« on: November 26, 2014, 04:30:22 AM »
Don't know of coins can change genders, so I think Thomas and Eb are safe.

... Huh? Lasciel is identified as female and we spend five books watching her try to get Harry to partner with her.

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DF Reference Collection / Re: Deirdre's Coin [Possible Spoilers]
« on: November 25, 2014, 02:29:23 PM »
What is the scenario even for Murphy picking up the coin? Nick doingthe same ploy he used on Harry? (i.e. Tossing the coin in front of Maggie with only Murph to see and pick it up.)

I like the suggestion of Deidre's Fallen's name. I doubt there will be a new host for her. Perhaps Nick will have two Fallen Angels whispering in his ear.

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