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The Dresden Files => DFRPG => Topic started by: ludomaniac on May 30, 2008, 11:37:48 AM

Title: System confusion
Post by: ludomaniac on May 30, 2008, 11:37:48 AM
I am really, really looking forward to this game.  However, I'm a FUDGE/FATE newbie (the only FUDGE product I own is "The Collectors").  I understand that FATE is an adaptation of FUDGE.  But will I need separate FUDGE rules to play, or is the Dresden Files RPG a complete game in itself?  In other words, when I buy Dresden, will I also need to buy the FUDGE basic rulebook from Grey Ghost?
Title: Re: System confusion
Post by: iago on May 30, 2008, 12:16:35 PM
Oh my god I LOVE The Collectors.

The Dresden Files RPG will be a complete game.
Title: Re: System confusion
Post by: ludomaniac on May 30, 2008, 05:05:50 PM
Thanks for clearing up my confusion, Iago.

The only problem with The Collectors is that there's not enough of it.  I want White Wolf-style piles of sourcebooks, dangit!  OK, maybe not piles, but I wish there was more support material.  Is Thomas Mackay still active in FUDGE circles?  Poke him until he writes more.
Title: Re: System confusion
Post by: iago on May 30, 2008, 05:37:50 PM
Thanks for clearing up my confusion, Iago.

The only problem with The Collectors is that there's not enough of it.  I want White Wolf-style piles of sourcebooks, dangit!  OK, maybe not piles, but I wish there was more support material.  Is Thomas Mackay still active in FUDGE circles?  Poke him until he writes more.

Not sure.  I should track him down again.
Title: Re: System confusion
Post by: finarvyn on June 02, 2008, 02:08:36 PM
I'm a FUDGE/FATE newbie ... will I need separate FUDGE rules to play, or is the Dresden Files RPG a complete game in itself?  In other words, when I buy Dresden, will I also need to buy the FUDGE basic rulebook from Grey Ghost?
While DFRPG is a complete game, you can get a better feel for the philosophy for the game by looking at FATE (free download) or Spirit of the Century (a "pulp" RPG from the same company as DFRPG, using a similar system).

Since you termed yourself a "FUDGE/FATE newbie" I would highly suggest you check out this stuff in advance to get a better feel for the game system. FATE isn't quite like other RPGs in that it's more loose than most rules systems. While there are many options, there aren't as many rules as some games and it may take a while for you to get it figured out. Once you do, however, the options are excellent!
Title: Re: System confusion
Post by: ludomaniac on June 02, 2008, 05:38:47 PM
Thanks for your excellent advice, Finarvyn.  I'll download the FATE rules and take a look.

I've heard nothing but good about SOTC as well, but never checked it out (20s/30s pulp doesn't appeal to me as a genre for roleplaying, though I like pulp novels and movies).
Title: Re: System confusion
Post by: iago on June 02, 2008, 06:10:25 PM
Note, the Fate version for download is "2.0", while SOTC is "3.0", so there are some significant changes between 'em.  Still, some of the conceptual grounding is the same.
Title: Re: System confusion
Post by: TheMouse on June 04, 2008, 11:09:50 PM
I've heard nothing but good about SOTC as well, but never checked it out (20s/30s pulp doesn't appeal to me as a genre for roleplaying, though I like pulp novels and movies).

You might want to take a look at the SotC SRD. It's quite worthwhile, even if you're not interested in pulp. You can find it here:

http://zork.net/~nick/loyhargil/fate3/fate3.html

It's all the rules from Spirit of the Century, although it's missing all the cool examples from the actual book. From comments on threads over at RPG.net, the version of Fate used for Dresden is going to be quite similar to the one used in SotC.
Title: Re: System confusion
Post by: skakid on June 05, 2008, 12:13:43 PM
I've been checking out the SotC SRD for a couple of days and I'll say this, if it's any indication of how the Dresden Files RPG will go or how well it's written you've far and away sold me on it already. 

Title: Re: System confusion
Post by: iago on June 05, 2008, 12:29:01 PM
I've been checking out the SotC SRD for a couple of days and I'll say this, if it's any indication of how the Dresden Files RPG will go or how well it's written you've far and away sold me on it already. 

I sure hope it's an indication of how the game will go and how well it's written! :)
Title: Re: System confusion
Post by: finarvyn on June 16, 2008, 02:15:44 PM
I sure hope it's an indication of how the game will go and how well it's written! :)
Fred is unwilling to brag, so I'll do it for him. Based on the playtest files I've seen so far, DFRPG will be at least as well done as SotC (and I think actually better).
Title: Re: System confusion
Post by: SaintAndSinner on June 18, 2008, 03:34:52 PM
I'll second that.  It is my opinion the game will rock on toast.  I just wish Evil Hat et al had the resources to get it done faster. *sigh*
Title: Re: System confusion
Post by: TheMouse on June 29, 2008, 07:26:30 PM
I just wish Evil Hat et al had the resources to get it done faster. *sigh*

No kidding. I just ran my first session of Fate (a hacked version based on SotC) this past Friday. Let's just say that all of my game mechanic problems with Exalted just went away.

SotC's great, don't get me wrong. But I'm a fan of fantasy games. I cannot wait to see how DF RPG turns out.
Title: Re: System confusion
Post by: prophet224 on July 01, 2008, 06:29:24 PM
You might want to take a look at the SotC SRD. It's quite worthwhile, even if you're not interested in pulp. You can find it here:

http://zork.net/~nick/loyhargil/fate3/fate3.html


Is it just me, or is the formatting there really... weird?

It's OGL, right?  So I could put it up somewhere in a more clean format?
Title: Re: System confusion
Post by: TheMouse on July 01, 2008, 08:51:03 PM
Yeah, the formatting is a little weird. I think that someone has already put the SRD onto a PDF. I'm not sure, because I just went out and bought the thing. Definitely worth it.
Title: Re: System confusion
Post by: iago on July 01, 2008, 11:33:34 PM
several pdf versions of the SRD are available on www.faterpg.com
Title: Re: System confusion
Post by: prophet224 on July 03, 2008, 02:37:58 PM
I was thinking something like this:

http://www.novusimperia.net/FATE_SRD/Fate3SRD.php (http://www.novusimperia.net/FATE_SRD/Fate3SRD.php)

Not everything is working yet, but about half is, I guess (up to skills, then DM).  Skills need correct links.

Anyway, I feel like it is cleaner than what else is out there, and easier to find things.
Title: Re: System confusion
Post by: TheMouse on July 03, 2008, 03:25:54 PM
Not bad. Not bad at all.