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The Dresden Files => DF Spoilers => Topic started by: groinkick on May 05, 2021, 06:32:13 AM
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This could be for anyone you'd like to see fight, and how it might go. Also do you think the fight is likely to happen?
Some interesting fights
KoTC Thomas vs Shagnasty - I think this could happen, and Thomas would kill it.
Fallen Marcone vs Carlos - Doubt it happens. I think Marcone might win this one. Haven't seen too much of what he can do but what he did do seemed to be pretty advanced stuff. Throw in how tough it is to finish a Fallen off, and he could take it.
Eldest Gruff vs Blood on His Soul - Probably won't happen but could be a seriously awesome fight... I'm leaning towards Gruff for this one. That little dude packs a punch, and has defeated a few of the most powerful wizards in the world.
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Thomas would be toast, shagnasty is serious trouble. Listen to wind drove it away but considered it too risky to follow up. Thomas probably can not handle Goodman grey and shagnasty is the real deal and not a scion.
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I could see Harry and KotC Butters facing off, if Butters caught wind of some morally gray situation Harry is in and tries to talk him out of it - having his mind set, he tries to use force when Harry says he cant change the plans. I see Harry pulling his punches as much as possible, only doing things to stun or disorientate Butters, because gods damned, thats his friend.
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I want to see Mavra killed by Harry. It is about time.
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Goodman Gray and Shaggy... Now that would be an even contest..
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Goodman Gray and Shaggy... Now that would be an even contest..
Not really, Grey has the sampler dish which he's gotten extremely good with but Shagnasty has the full package + whatever power he's gained from eating wizards over the years.
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Not really, Grey has the sampler dish which he's gotten extremely good with but Shagnasty has the full package + whatever power he's gained from eating wizards over the years.
I doubt he gained any power from eating wizards over the years.. Don't for a minute underestimate Mr Grey, he has also learned a thing or two..
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Would like to see Harry, Marcone, Goodman, McCoy, Kincaid, listens to Wind, Carlos Ramirez
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Shagnasty, Mavra, Genosqua, and a Mystery guest bad guy.
In a crazy Smackdown on Demonreach but Harry has limited access for whatever jim butcher reason
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Thomas would be toast, shagnasty is serious trouble. Listen to wind drove it away but considered it too risky to follow up. Thomas probably can not handle Goodman grey and shagnasty is the real deal and not a scion.
I said Knight of the Cross Thomas. Michael took out a nest of Bamps, and killed a Dragon. Those Swords level the playing field, and there hasn't been a single example of something evil they cannot kill so far.
I doubt he gained any power from eating wizards over the years.. Don't for a minute underestimate Mr Grey, he has also learned a thing or two..
Grey has only displayed shapeshifting abilities, while Shagnasty has an arsenal of capabilities. He's not at the same level.
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I said Knight of the Cross Thomas. Michael took out a nest of Bamps, and killed a Dragon. Those Swords level the playing field, and there hasn't been a single example of something evil they cannot kill so far.
Grey has only displayed shapeshifting abilities, while Shagnasty has an arsenal of capabilities. He's not at the same level.
I don’t believe in knight of the cross Thomas.
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Would like to see Harry, Marcone, Goodman, McCoy, Kincaid, listens to Wind, Carlos Ramirez
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Shagnasty, Mavra, Genosqua, and a Mystery guest bad guy.
In a crazy Smackdown on Demonreach but Harry has limited access for whatever jim butcher reason
IMO the deck is heavily stacked against the bad guys here. If there was any kind of preparation involved I could see Eb, and Fallen Marcone winning this on their own.
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I don’t believe in knight of the cross Thomas.
What does that even mean?
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Goodman Gray and Shaggy... Now that would be an even contest..
It would be an interesting fight, but a sad one. We'd see Goodman put up a great fight but ultimately get dominated, and then tortured to death. It would be like Superman's child getting just one of his fathers abilities, and then facing his father in a fight...
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What does that even mean?
I don’t think it will happen
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I don’t think it will happen
It might not but I think him talking to Dresden about the greatest is love Bible verse, and him being born on Valentines day, and him saving Amoracchius is foreshadowing to him wielding Amoracchius also known as the Redeemer's blade, and the Sword of Love...
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Goodman Grey vs Kincaid over rival contracts.
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It might not but I think him talking to Dresden about the greatest is love Bible verse, and him being born on Valentines day, and him saving Amoracchius is foreshadowing to him wielding Amoracchius also known as the Redeemer's blade, and the Sword of Love...
Pretty sure Jim said that the valentine's day birthday didn't mean anything. That it has no significance for anything.
Molly would be a better choice.
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Not really ..Mavra and Shagnasty would be a pretty good fight vs Marcone and Eb...
Genasqua would be a force especially if he still has a coin...
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Not really ..Mavra and Shagnasty would be a pretty good fight vs Marcone and Eb...
Genasqua would be a force especially if he still has a coin...
Eb with the wave of his hand splattered someone with a crushing force. He sent another person flying a super long distance. He force choked Lara and was about to kill her. Shagnasty would be tough, but he'd splatter Mavra in a second. Not only that but she's vulnerable to Necromancy, and I seriously doubt that Eb isn't capable of exploiting that weakness as the Blackstaff.
Shagnasty, and the Genasqua with a Coin would be pretty scary.
I may be underestimating the people you've chosen though.
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Goodman Grey vs Kincaid over rival contracts.
How vulnerable is Grey to headshots? lol
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How vulnerable is Grey to headshots? lol
He can make a decoy head
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The Ghouls vs. The Forest People, a swarm of angry undead versus Bigfoot? Pass the popcorn!!!
He can make a decoy head
Can Kincaid see through the decoy???
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The Ghouls vs. The Forest People, a swarm of angry undead versus Bigfoot? Pass the popcorn!!!
Can Kincaid see through the decoy???
He is a shapechanger. The head is real there are just no vulnerable organs in it
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The Ghouls vs. The Forest People
That was in Bigfoot on Campus.
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Harry versus the entire White Council.
Kemmler 2.0
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Harry versus the entire White Council.
Kemmler 2.0
The Gatekeeper won't fight against Harry as long as he is the knight serving Mab to defend the gates.
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The Gatekeeper won't fight against Harry as long as he is the knight serving Mab to defend the gates.
Ehh, we don't know that for certain. It's a good guess but Rashid has his own plan. He doesn't work for Mab or really with Mab. He just has a common interest with her.
If the fight was to say be for Rashid to knock Harry out of the WK gig for the betterment of Harry, he would definitely throw down with him.
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Ehh, we don't know that for certain. It's a good guess but Rashid has his own plan. He doesn't work for Mab or really with Mab. He just has a common interest with her.
If the fight was to say be for Rashid to knock Harry out of the WK gig for the betterment of Harry, he would definitely throw down with him.
Now? Just before the apocalypse? Stopping the outsiders is all what counts and if Harry is necessary for that or even if he is just a good help the Gatekeeper will not side against the mothers and the queens and the ladies
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Mouse Vs Cerberus
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Mouse Vs Cerberus
They will get along quite well.
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Now? Just before the apocalypse? Stopping the outsiders is all what counts and if Harry is necessary for that or even if he is just a good help the Gatekeeper will not side against the mothers and the queens and the ladies
Yes he would, when the moment is right. Harry is powerful in his own right, but he is still a small fish. But instead of being in a small pond, he is now dipping his fins into a big ocean.
So if Rashid thinks or knows that the time is right to throw down with Harry to put him on this separate but similar path, he would do it. As I said, Rashid doesn't work for Mab. He works for himself along the same path as Mab. It doesn't matter how close the BAT is, if the time is right, the time is right. Throwing this in as an example. People here were saying that Murphy was the end game for Harry because the end of the series was too close to have Harry and Murphy breakup and Harry find someone new. What did Jim do? Killed Murphy off. There is time for everything in this series still.
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Except that I expect the gatekeeper to be more and more bound by the gates and his duty there. Harry’s duty will be to keep Nemesis from disturbing him. They will work in parallel and they both know it.
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Except that I expect the gatekeeper to be more and more bound by the gates and his duty there. Harry’s duty will be to keep Nemesis from disturbing him. They will work in parallel and they both know it.
Right, and if he believes for Harry to do his job better is to release him from his obligations to Mab, then he would do it to help Harry and himself.
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Right, and if he believes for Harry to do his job better is to release him from his obligations to Mab, then he would do it to help Harry and himself.
Unlikely. He needs the power and the support of winter to do his job.
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Unlikely. He needs the power and the support of winter to do his job.
No, actually. He doesn't. Everyone and everything wants Harry the weapon. Murphy started the series like that. The only people who we meet who don't want Harry the weapon right away or want to kill him is the Alphas, the KotC, Thomas, and Molly.
So once again I say, he doesn't NEED Winter. It helps that he is with it, but if the right power came along and it was up for grabs, and the situation came up for Rashid to intervene to help Harry by throwing down with him, he would do it. He has already came along twice in the series to steer events. Once to possibly kill Harry if the choice he made was not the right one, and the second was to keep him from killing himself. He does what is good for reality, not Winter or Mab.
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Oh how about a cat fight between Molly and Lara? We will see who scratches who's eyes out.. ::)
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Oh how about a cat fight between Molly and Lara? We will see who scratches who's eyes out.. ::)
Molly is definitely more powerful on a personal level and she has an army as well.
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Molly is definitely more powerful on a personal level and she has an army as well.
yeah she should beat Lara in a straight up fight. I think Lara's best chance would be to use her Hunger, and with Molly's Winter Mantle's sex drive she could, for a moment caught off guard. Long enough for Lara to get her with iron, and rip her apart... Of course this would mean Lara had time to plan, and everything like that.
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yeah she should beat Lara in a straight up fight. I think Lara's best chance would be to use her Hunger, and with Molly's Winter Mantle's sex drive she could, for a moment caught off guard. Long enough for Lara to get her with iron, and rip her apart... Of course this would mean Lara had time to plan, and everything like that.
Also unless under special circumstances like Halloween Molly is unlike Lara Truly immortal and will simply reform after a while and then Lara will be in big trouble.
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Also unless under special circumstances like Halloween Molly is unlike Lara Truly immortal and will simply reform after a while and then Lara will be in big trouble.
Yeah Lara would avoid this fight.
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Blood on his soul vs Listens to Wind
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Blood on his soul vs Listens to Wind
I think it will be more like River Shoulder vs Blood on His Soul.
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I think it will be more like River Shoulder vs Blood on His Soul.
Probably
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Drakul vs Vadderung
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Drakul vs Vadderung
Big yes.
Also:
Drakul vs Mab
Ferrovax vs Vadderung
Ebenezar vs the Merlin (Langtry)
Harry vs the Merlin (Langtry)
Harry vs Ramirez
Harry vs Elaine
Molly vs Elaine
Nicodemus vs Marcone
Harry vs Marcone
Marcone vs Genoskwa
River Shoulders vs Genoskwa
Harry vs Mavra (round 3)
Ivy vs something big
Mab vs Titania
The Gatekeeper vs Cowl
Cowl vs Harry (round 3 or 4)
Cowl vs Eb
Cowl vs Langtry
Listens-to-Wind vs Genoskwa
Listens-to-Wind vs Shagnasty
Grey vs Shagnasty
Kincaid vs Drakul
Kincaid + Ivy vs Drakul
Kemmler (either returned or a flash back) vs the White Council (or any interesting battle he was a part of)
Knights of the Cross vs Genoskwa
Knights of the Cross vs Marcone
Harry vs the White Council
Probably more but I can't think of them right now.
I also DON'T want to see certain fights.
I really don't want to see the Librarians just wiping the floor with everyone because "yeah we are humans with special knowledge that no one else has" - isn't that what the Venatori were meant to be, or the White Council?
I don't think I want to see a human/mortal army vs Fae in the real world. On Earth the Fae would get smashed because of bullets and the whole "we are humans this is our city" stuff that always seems to show up. I mean, the Fomor are supposedly powerful water mages. Did they bother to do anything with the water? How about flooding the city? Or poisoning the water supply? Or even vanishing/draining it? Overflowing the sewage system? What about ripping the water out of the Chicago citizen's bodies? Or doing some major version of what Carlos does (entropy magic). No, instead the throw lightning and acid and lumps of steel. Very tactical.
Tbh, I don't think I would even wish to see the mortal world vs another invading army or giant monster unless Jim ratchets up the difficulty setting.
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As soon as I read the big revelation in Skin Game that the Genoskwa was in possession (or possessed by) one of the coins, I've been hoping to see a battle between the Genoskwa in full Denarian mode and River Shoulders wielding Amoracchius.
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As soon as I read the big revelation in Skin Game that the Genoskwa was in possession (or possessed by) one of the coins, I've been hoping to see a battle between the Genoskwa in full Denarian mode and River Shoulders wielding Amoracchius.
lol I wonder if the Sword would alter itself to fit his massive hands
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lol I wonder if the Sword would alter itself to fit his massive hands
I can see it doing that... But who says River has large hands? ::)
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I can see it doing that... But who says River has large hands? ::)
Harry, remember the scene in Peace Talks.
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Harry, remember the scene in Peace Talks.
No, I don't really, I was just trying to be funny..