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Title: Lead as a anti-'spooky' ammunition
Post by: Craz on December 01, 2007, 05:28:42 AM
Okay, I know that iron has a lot of properties in fighting preternatural creatures, but does anyone know a precedent in literature of lead having noticeable effects on the supernatural?
Title: Re: Lead as a anti-'spooky' ammunition
Post by: Lisa™ on December 01, 2007, 03:41:55 PM
I recall something about lead being harmful to fairies... not sure where I read it, though.
Title: Re: Lead as a anti-'spooky' ammunition
Post by: Mario Di Giacomo on December 01, 2007, 04:35:20 PM
Not that I'm aware of.  Silver (for werewolves) & cold iron (for Sidhe) are the usual culprits.

Lead works great on Daxamites, though. :)
Title: Re: Lead as a anti-'spooky' ammunition
Post by: CarolM on December 01, 2007, 04:46:51 PM
Not that I'm aware of.  Silver (for werewolves) & cold iron (for Sidhe) are the usual culprits.

Lead works great on Daxamites, though. :)

Lead neutralising Krytonite doesn't really count either does it? Though Superman is kinda supernatural. ??? ;D Well he certainly isn't human is he?
But lead is poisonous to most Earthly creatures, it might be poisonous to otherworldly creatures with Earthly links?
Title: Re: Lead as a anti-'spooky' ammunition
Post by: 13x13 on December 01, 2007, 05:09:56 PM
Well I don't know of anything in literature, but if you are looking for justification you can look to alchemy and astrology.  Lead is associated with the planet Saturn.  Here is the astrological meaning of Saturn:

Astrologically Saturn is associated with the principles of limitation, restrictions, boundaries, practicality and reality, crystallizing and structures. Saturn governs ambition, career, authority and hierarchy, and conforming social structures.

Saturn/Cronus the Roman/Greek god also was a symbol for Father Time because he brought all things that have a beginning to and end.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_%28astrology%29#Saturn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_%28astrology%29#Saturn)

Why link Alchemy and Astrology?  Well Silver, one of the 7 Alchemical metals is associated with the Moon. So the link to it's affect on werewolves makes sense.

Lead is a heavy element, all elements above Lead are radioactive and not stable, they all decay into a form of lead.  It is the least conductive of electricity of the seven alchemical metals, and in appearance is the dullest.  Lead when ingested stores in the bones.
http://skyscript.co.uk/metal6.html (http://skyscript.co.uk/metal6.html)

Lead in Alchemy is considered the oldest metal


Basing leads effect off of alchemy and astrology you could say that lead grounds the supernatural.  It places limitations and boundaries on them. It weighs them down, binds them to the earth.  As it is least conductive of the seven alchemical metals it does not allow the flow of "spooky" energy.  It brings and end to those things that have a beginning.  If you are immortal then it represents the end, death.

In fact don't use this information, it makes me want to use it for my own writing...LOL
Title: Re: Lead as a anti-'spooky' ammunition
Post by: JamiSings on December 01, 2007, 05:50:41 PM
Not that I'm aware of.  Silver (for werewolves) & cold iron (for Sidhe) are the usual culprits.

Lead works great on Daxamites, though. :)

Silver also works on vampires.

I think lead works best on radioactive zombies.
Title: Re: Lead as a anti-'spooky' ammunition
Post by: comprex on December 01, 2007, 07:26:01 PM
I think lead works best on radioactive zombies.


Depends on how fast they are.
Title: Re: Lead as a anti-'spooky' ammunition
Post by: comprex on December 01, 2007, 07:31:15 PM


The transuranic metals might work extremely well as supernatural ammunition loads.   Lead the eventual byproduct.
Title: Re: Lead as a anti-'spooky' ammunition
Post by: JamiSings on December 01, 2007, 09:28:14 PM

Depends on how fast they are.

Fast, shmast, I just like saying "Radioactive Zombies."
Title: Re: Lead as a anti-'spooky' ammunition
Post by: comprex on December 01, 2007, 09:38:22 PM
No doubt.   Half-life and all.
Title: Re: Lead as a anti-'spooky' ammunition
Post by: Lisa™ on December 01, 2007, 09:45:41 PM
*Pun Dumpster*
Title: Re: Lead as a anti-'spooky' ammunition
Post by: JamiSings on December 01, 2007, 10:03:29 PM
I always wondered what would happen if a zombie were to try and eat a werewolf's brain. Especially if the WW was in human form at the time. A zombie loup-garou?
Title: Re: Lead as a anti-'spooky' ammunition
Post by: comprex on December 01, 2007, 10:31:09 PM
I always wondered what would happen if a zombie were to try and eat a werewolf's brain.

Necromancy vs. blood borne curse?   Has plot potential.   

Not much tho, without a currently hyped controversy to exemplify the issues and hold interest.
Title: Re: Lead as a anti-'spooky' ammunition
Post by: Craz on December 01, 2007, 10:36:07 PM
:) Thanks, guys. This helps out a ton.
Title: Re: Lead as a anti-'spooky' ammunition
Post by: JamiSings on December 01, 2007, 10:44:06 PM
:) Thanks, guys. This helps out a ton.

Would radioactive zombie werewolves have to be killed by a lead-coated silver bullet?

Sorry, I just can't stop myself!
Title: Re: Lead as a anti-'spooky' ammunition
Post by: Craz on December 01, 2007, 10:45:56 PM
Silly, you do what every normal person does; You drop a silver-lead alloy anvil on it. Sheesh, :P
Title: Re: Lead as a anti-'spooky' ammunition
Post by: comprex on December 01, 2007, 10:50:07 PM
Silly, you do what every normal person does; You drop grandma's silver-lead alloy anvil on it. Sheesh, :P

Fixed.

See if you can work in mercury and cool words like 'amalgam' though.
Title: Re: Lead as a anti-'spooky' ammunition
Post by: JamiSings on December 02, 2007, 12:03:19 AM
I've started something very bad, haven't I? Just cause I was obsessed with the words "radioactive zombies"?
Title: Re: Lead as a anti-'spooky' ammunition
Post by: Lisa™ on December 02, 2007, 12:23:14 AM
Silly, you do what every normal person does; You drop a silver-lead alloy anvil on it. Sheesh, :P

Looney Tunes-style.   ;D
Title: Re: Lead as a anti-'spooky' ammunition
Post by: Yeratel on December 02, 2007, 10:59:47 PM
Jim is the only author I've read who's killed a vampire with a flying frozen turkey.
Title: Re: Lead as a anti-'spooky' ammunition
Post by: JamiSings on December 02, 2007, 11:18:15 PM
But he hasn't done radioactive zombie werewolves yet!

Sorry, I tend to obsess.
Title: Re: Lead as a anti-'spooky' ammunition
Post by: Lisa™ on December 03, 2007, 12:35:02 PM
Jim is the only author I've read who's killed a vampire with a flying frozen turkey.

And this is probably one of the reasons we all love him so much.  Never mind the interesting characters or the new angle on magic use.  Flying frozen turkey.  It's a winner.
Title: Re: Lead as a anti-'spooky' ammunition
Post by: Kali on December 03, 2007, 01:11:23 PM
The timer popping up was the capper.  A laugh-out-loud moment.