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The Dresden Files => DF Spoilers => Topic started by: raidem on January 24, 2018, 05:47:47 PM
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I'm going to run this for some period of time. I won't have an 'other' option. I will add options at the bottom as you recommend them. People can then choose the best option among those listed. And change their vote as other options are avaliable. Having no 'other' will force a vote between named options.
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For the sake of completeness, can we add "Time Displaced Doppelganger of [Blank]"
Im willing to peddle the idea that Marcone will grow up via time-loops to be Vadderung (who is still not the first Odin, btw) as an explanation for why he seems to be Vadderung's current Pet Project.
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For the sake of completeness, can we add "Time Displaced Doppelganger of [Blank]"
Im willing to peddle the idea that Marcone will grow up via time-loops to be Vadderung (who is still not the first Odin, btw) as an explanation for why he seems to be Vadderung's current Pet Project.
Where did you make him out to be that one?
Curiously Odin is known for having OG Merlin as his protégé, and this is referenced in how he talks to Harry especially in SG.
If we're going with his family line though... He's a (the?)Son of God, and Mac, Uriel, EK and a few others are his direct
ancestors. Look at the eyes and the Hair of each. Golden blonde with Green eyes when applicable for either.
*You know Donar Vadderrung translates as Son of Thunder yes? But being a storm god himself I wonder if 'Son of Zeus' isn't better, mushing Greek and Norse in it's generations.
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Where did you make him out to be that one?
This is probably the first time Ive mentioned the idea. It took a lot for me to get bored enough to start fiddling with Time Travel theories. I get headaches :P
Curiously Odin is known for having OG Merlin as his protégé, and this is referenced in how he talks to Harry especially in SG.
If we're going with his family line though... He's a (the?)Son of God, and Mac, Uriel, EK and a few others are his direct
ancestors. Look at the eyes and the Hair of each. Golden blonde with Green eyes when applicable for either.
Demonreach has Green Eyes, can he be Demonreach's Offspring, explaining why he's so preoccupied with territory? :D
*You know Donar Vadderrung translates as Son of Thunder yes? But being a storm god himself I wonder if 'Son of Zeus' isn't better, mushing Greek and Norse in it's generations.
The theory Id seen on that one translated it more as "Thunder-Son" or "Thunder, Next-Father" but the literal translation is weirder: Donar=Thunder, Vader=Father, rung=level in hierarchy(?)
All that pointing to Thor having stepped up and taken over the original Odin's role.
I could see there being a connection made between the various European Pantheons, like greek and slavic but given how Hades was presented Im currently expecting them to be distinct beings that are contemporaries (absent behind the scene mantle-eating shenanigans)
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Having no 'other' will force a vote between named options.
And render the voice of anyone who disagrees with the premise that Marcone has a special lineage mute.
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And render the voice of anyone who disagrees with the premise that Marcone has a special lineage mute.
Can we get a "No Significant Family Ties" option, to address this concern?
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I went with Odin's group because that was the second supernatural element, after Harry, that he went to for business purposes.
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Can we get a "No Significant Family Ties" option, to address this concern?
That is better than just "other."
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All that pointing to Thor having stepped up and taken over the original Odin's role.
I could see there being a connection made between the various European Pantheons, like greek and slavic but given how Hades was presented Im currently expecting them to be distinct beings that are contemporaries (absent behind the scene mantle-eating shenanigans)
I actually tend to think Loki took the title, I know, oddity. But something about his trickster nature and lack of Hammer in place of a staff/spear... Thor would parallel Hercules too much to make a good Odin.
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Don't see Mac as an option..... I'm voting Mac is his father, possibly before becoming *mortal*
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I've added Mac and Loki to the options. You can change your votes.
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Holy Shit! New Idea, and I actually want to believe this one:
Marcone is a MacFinn!!!!
It explains so MUCH! The Enemy nearly wiped out the very necessary Loup Garou bloodline at the 11th hour (Universally speaking). Vadderung couldnt risk another close call after that, so he sent Gard to take a more active approach to keeping the Fenrir Bloodline alive. THAT is what Vadderung's interest in Marcone truly is, and it fits the timeline.
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Marcone is a MacFinn!!!!
It explains so MUCH! The Enemy nearly wiped out the very necessary Loup Garou bloodline at the 11th hour (Universally speaking). Vadderung couldnt risk another close call after that, so he sent Gard to take a more active approach to keeping the Fenrir Bloodline alive. THAT is what Vadderung's interest in Marcone truly is, and it fits the timeline.
Hmm, I'll just add Harry to that list above Marcone :)
I think you have to add all players at Marcone's estate as being potential candidates too. If I was to guess though, Tera West wanted to preserve her bloodline which is why she became involved in the plot with MacFinn.
Murphy, Alphas, FBI agents, Marcone and his allies, Harry, Tera West, Loup Garou. If it really was an a plot to kill off the bloodline, then it would make sense to have the entire family tree there.
If that bloodline is also suspect, then it is possible that the Storm Front blood curse and the later Changes blood curse was targeting partly this Loup Garou family tree. This would further support the idea that Harry, at least, lies on it.
It could make sense that Marcone and Harry share a Loup Garou family tree even if they aren't directly connected in a linear fashion, ancestor to descendant.
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Holy Shit! New Idea, and I actually want to believe this one:
Marcone is a MacFinn!!!!
It explains so MUCH! The Enemy nearly wiped out the very necessary Loup Garou bloodline at the 11th hour (Universally speaking). Vadderung couldnt risk another close call after that, so he sent Gard to take a more active approach to keeping the Fenrir Bloodline alive. THAT is what Vadderung's interest in Marcone truly is, and it fits the timeline.
Mwahahaha No, it's not a new idea. That's just the first time anyone besides me seems to have spoke it. I pointed out the appearance similarities ages ago.(the eyes and iirc Hair, but the eyes could be a summery fae thing) It's actually what makes Fix relate to Marcone/dangerous. Fix is the Mordred archetype to Marcone's Arthur.. as his own kid it wouldn't work but as a bastard of the same family... not sure about the rest of it, but Chauncey says "the cursed line of the family", meaning not all of the lineage was cursed, just the descendants of the original curse... distant relations mayhaps.
*they actually scrooged with the potential descendants of Odin and EK in FM, hence the Norse Berserkers being drug into it vs Harry intentionally.
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Mwahahaha No, it's not a new idea. That's just the first time anyone besides me seems to have spoke it.
finefine, New Idea to me then :P
I pointed out the appearance similarities ages ago.(the eyes and iirc Hair, but the eyes could be a summery fae thing) It's actually what makes Fix relate to Marcone/dangerous. Fix is the Mordred archetype to Marcone's Arthur.. as his own kid it wouldn't work but as a bastard of the same family... not sure about the rest of it, but Chauncey says "the cursed line of the family", meaning not all of the lineage was cursed, just the descendants of the original curse... distant relations mayhaps.
*they actually scrooged with the potential descendants of Odin and EK in FM, hence the Norse Berserkers being drug into it vs Harry intentionally.
Fix (aka Summer Knight) or Fitz (aka Street Kid that Sees Dead People)?
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oops, yea, Fitz the Bastard not fix the SK.
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Should I go ahead and delete this thread?
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Should I go ahead and delete this thread?
Negative bro,
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You know what would be funny is if Marcone, and Michael were brothers... One good, one bad. In the Mirror Mirror verse Marcone took up the Sword because his brother, Michael was killed.
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Hmm...I'm gonna have to apply Amber to Marcone at some point.
Earlier today I was thinking of Billy Sells. And what he would become. For some reason, I was thinking of both him and Marcone. Not that they are one in the same but I was thinking of it. Another thought along the lines of Quantus epiphany regarding Marcone and the Loup Garou, Victor Sells may have been targeting those that were in the MacFinn family tree. This could mean to imply that at the end, he finds out that his own family is descended from MacFinn. Victor is very eager to find out who hired Dresden, and this pushes Victor over the edge/breaks his concentration.
So, I think you may need to revisit all the people targeted by the Storm Front blood curses powered by lightning to find potential MacFinn candidates. And I think you also need to consider that some subset of these individuals were also targeted in Changes by attacking Maggie Jr then up to Harry...