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Title: Did Cowl teach....
Post by: groinkick on October 07, 2017, 05:26:39 AM
Did Cowl teach the spirit how to eat Harry's magic? 
Title: Re: Did Cowl teach....
Post by: Griffyn612 on October 07, 2017, 05:39:40 AM
What spirit?  Do you mean the Nightmare from GP?  I thought it was assumed that Mavra or Bianca trained him.
Title: Re: Did Cowl teach....
Post by: groinkick on October 07, 2017, 06:08:55 AM
What spirit?  Do you mean the Nightmare from GP?  I thought it was assumed that Mavra or Bianca trained him.

Yes.  Assumed, but Cowl was hanging around.  For that matter is Cowl training/controlling Mavra?
Title: Re: Did Cowl teach....
Post by: forumghost on October 07, 2017, 06:55:33 AM
I just thought that was just a natural part of him being a spirit- like how those Ghosts at the start of GS tried to eat Harry's essence for sustinence.
Title: Re: Did Cowl teach....
Post by: exartiem on October 07, 2017, 09:52:01 AM
Eating/devouring I think is more a vampire thing than a necromancer thing.
Title: Re: Did Cowl teach....
Post by: groinkick on October 07, 2017, 05:45:55 PM
Eating/devouring I think is more a vampire thing than a necromancer thing.

Yes but a vampire can't teach someone to feed.  You either are, or aren't a vampire.  Also controlling the dead is a necromancer thing, that includes spirits.
Title: Re: Did Cowl teach....
Post by: raidem on October 07, 2017, 09:13:09 PM
You know, now that you mention it, mavra May indeed be controlled by another.  I just wouldn't jump to conclude that it is cowl.

One option is that the blackstaff has a handle on mavra.  But aside from that, it would be interesting to see her trying to shake loose a puppetmaster, say like cowl.
Title: Re: Did Cowl teach....
Post by: groinkick on October 08, 2017, 05:35:53 AM
You know, now that you mention it, mavra May indeed be controlled by another.  I just wouldn't jump to conclude that it is cowl.

One option is that the blackstaff has a handle on mavra.  But aside from that, it would be interesting to see her trying to shake loose a puppetmaster, say like cowl.

Good call.  I could see Eb using her in this way.  Not sure if he is, but could see it.  I wonder if when Eb was there to lock her down, he used necromancy, and made her his slave.  Through her he obtained the Book of Kemmler which he has plans for.
Title: Re: Did Cowl teach....
Post by: Froklsnt on October 12, 2017, 04:40:19 PM
How much have we explored the idea that the Mavra we know is actually a puppet being operated by Cowl and Kumori? I suppose it makes the scene at Bock's in DB a bit problematic, but it fits together pretty well otherwise.
Title: Re: Did Cowl teach....
Post by: groinkick on October 12, 2017, 05:33:24 PM
How much have we explored the idea that the Mavra we know is actually a puppet being operated by Cowl and Kumori? I suppose it makes the scene at Bock's in DB a bit problematic, but it fits together pretty well otherwise.

I agree...  Even if now Cowl, I think someone is pulling her strings.  Maybe even Drakul