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Title: Billy and Georgia
Post by: crystalphoenixhobbies1 on August 26, 2017, 06:48:28 PM
I'm sure this has been covered elsewhere, and if someone just wants to direct me to the original post that's fine. But in Turn Coat, during the big battle on the island at the end, Billy and Georgia are hit by a White Court whammy that sends them into a different kind of frenzy in the bushes. But how did that happen? Are White Court vampires able to use their magic on people who are truly in love, or is feeding the only thing affected?  If they can't use their powers either, wouldn't that imply that Billy and Georgia aren't actually in love?
Title: Re: Billy and Georgia
Post by: jonas on August 26, 2017, 06:52:00 PM
WCV blood is intoxicating. They got it from biting Madeline.
Title: Re: Billy and Georgia
Post by: exartiem on August 27, 2017, 03:45:11 PM
I have a related question or two:

Is that where they conceived their child, and if so, will being conceived while it's parents blood is contaminated with WCV toxins have any effect on the child as it grows older?
Title: Re: Billy and Georgia
Post by: Aminar on August 27, 2017, 06:14:18 PM
I have a related question or two:

Is that where they conceived their child, and if so, will being conceived while it's parents blood is contaminated with WCV toxins have any effect on the child as it grows older?
That part wr have little knowledge of. But if I had to guess I'd say no. The idea of an intoxicant effecting a pair of tiny cells that likely wouldn't meet up for a few days after the event is a bit too much for me. Maybe if Georgia were regularly exposed throughout the pregnancy, but that's not the case.
Title: Re: Billy and Georgia
Post by: kazimmoinuddin on August 27, 2017, 09:39:34 PM
It is possible that being conceived on the island, gave the child more magical potential. Not necessarily full on wizard level, but greater potential for shapeshifting potential perhaps. He could change without being taught the spell. He could be a practioners, focused on shapeshifting, so able to do the more advanced forms of it and possibly multiple forms.
Title: Re: Billy and Georgia
Post by: jonas on August 27, 2017, 11:17:24 PM
It is possible that being conceived on the island, gave the child more magical potential. Not necessarily full on wizard level, but greater potential for shapeshifting potential perhaps. He could change without being taught the spell. He could be a practioners, focused on shapeshifting, so able to do the more advanced forms of it and possibly multiple forms.
The island isn't exactly a magical mountain paradise...
Title: Re: Billy and Georgia
Post by: Snark Knight on August 28, 2017, 03:34:09 PM
Is that where they conceived their child, and if so, will being conceived while it's parents blood is contaminated with WCV toxins have any effect on the child as it grows older?

Georgia was pretty late-term in Aftermath, wasn't she? I think Changes followed Turn Coat pretty closely (like summer to fall closely) so she was probably already pregnant at that point, just early enough to maybe not have known so yet.
Title: Re: Billy and Georgia
Post by: KurtinStGeorge on August 28, 2017, 09:38:34 PM
Was Billy and Georgia's child conceived on Demonreach island?  Another question for someone to ask Jim at the next Con.
Title: Re: Billy and Georgia
Post by: Aminar on August 28, 2017, 10:37:16 PM
Was Billy and Georgia's child conceived on Demonreach island?  Another question for someone to ask Jim at the next Con.
According to the timeline Changes is over a year after Turn Coat. Turn Coat is 10 years after Storm Front. Changes is 11. Given that Storm Front is early spring they're not bridging its anniversary.
Title: Re: Billy and Georgia
Post by: Snark Knight on August 29, 2017, 01:26:48 AM
According to the timeline Changes is over a year after Turn Coat.

I remember TC being set in the summer, and Changes had to be around Halloween for Harry's threat to do a Darkhallow if Mab wouldn't deal for the Knighthood (corroborated by six months later for GS being late for the winter weather to still be hanging on). But why do we figure it's over a year instead of them being in the same year?
Title: Re: Billy and Georgia
Post by: wardenferry419 on August 29, 2017, 10:15:04 AM
On the timeline there are a few short stories that occur between TC and Changes that suggest a time gap of over a year.
Title: Re: Billy and Georgia
Post by: Aminar on August 29, 2017, 01:22:21 PM
I remember TC being set in the summer, and Changes had to be around Halloween for Harry's threat to do a Darkhallow if Mab wouldn't deal for the Knighthood (corroborated by six months later for GS being late for the winter weather to still be hanging on). But why do we figure it's over a year instead of them being in the same year?
Priscille's timeline says it. She's more in the know than me or most anyone. It is generally viewed as official.  That's enough reason for me.
Title: Re: Billy and Georgia
Post by: kazimmoinuddin on August 29, 2017, 08:54:53 PM
How old does a kid have to be to demonstrate magic and eventually be able to control it at will?
Title: Re: Billy and Georgia
Post by: Aminar on August 30, 2017, 02:03:09 AM
How old does a kid have to be to demonstrate magic and eventually be able to control it at will?
At the oldest, 10ish. Probably younger given how scary Ivy was.