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Title: Which creature would be doing this?
Post by: Razgrizi on April 27, 2017, 05:38:22 PM
Good afternoon guys! I had a quick question. I had some inspiration for a one shot campaign with my players and I wanted your advice on this. I was wanting to tie in the craze from the Unicorn Frapp from Starbucks and something supernatural behind it. What creatures would have the motivations to do so. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Which creature would be doing this?
Post by: Shaft on April 27, 2017, 05:57:05 PM
Probably not any unicorns... :D

I can see some of the more psycho members of the White Court having fun by feeding unicorns to unknowing humans and getting some kind of leverage to compel the humans that feed on the concoction.
Title: Re: Which creature would be doing this?
Post by: Razgrizi on April 27, 2017, 06:00:15 PM
Probably not any unicorns... :D

I chuckled more than I should have at this :P
Title: Re: Which creature would be doing this?
Post by: Taran on April 27, 2017, 06:03:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbYWhdLO43Q

Edit:

It might give you a new perspective about this supernatural creature....
Title: Re: Which creature would be doing this?
Post by: dragoonbuster on April 30, 2017, 05:56:19 AM
Maybe they're spiked with a subtle magic mind-control drug that makes people spend exorbitant amounts of money on sugary drinks, created by the warlocks running Starbucks? :P
Title: Re: Which creature would be doing this?
Post by: blackstaff67 on April 30, 2017, 02:37:28 PM
Probably some Winter-sponsored mages playing a practical joke on people at Summer's expense.
Title: Re: Which creature would be doing this?
Post by: g33k on May 04, 2017, 04:45:37 PM
Maybe they're spiked with a subtle magic mind-control drug that makes people spend exorbitant amounts of money on sugary drinks, created by the warlocks running Starbucks? :P 
They've been doing that all along, expanding outside Seattle 30(!) years ago in 1987...
Title: Re: Which creature would be doing this?
Post by: g33k on May 04, 2017, 04:48:55 PM
Good afternoon guys! I had a quick question. I had some inspiration for a one shot campaign with my players and I wanted your advice on this. I was wanting to tie in the craze from the Unicorn Frapp from Starbucks and something supernatural behind it. What creatures would have the motivations to do so. Any ideas?
There's something distinctly "little girl" about the whole Rainbow Unicorns thing (says the dad of 2 very different girls, who both went through that phase... ) .   Maybe some 2nd-grader somehow got a Summer Lady Mantle ... ?
Title: Re: Which creature would be doing this?
Post by: Taran on May 04, 2017, 04:59:20 PM
There's something distinctly "little girl" about the whole Rainbow Unicorns thing (says the dad of 2 very different girls, who both went through that phase... ) .   Maybe some 2nd-grader somehow got a Summer Lady Mantle ... ?

Oh man...this ^
Title: Re: Which creature would be doing this?
Post by: Quantus on May 05, 2017, 01:37:52 PM
Hmmm,

I like the g33k's Little Girl line of thought, thought I'd branch out more from the Fae personally. 

Maybe a Twilight-zone superkid (other than ivy)?

 I always liked the Good Omens idea of the fast food industry being a giant conspiracy and a dark joke, where the horseman Famine loved the idea of people dying of obesity and malnourished at the same time. 

Anyone looking to mass distribute some potion/toxin/magical malady would work, but then the Unicorn thing becomes more about marketing than theme of the big bad. 

If the Reds were still around, I might suggest it's a scheme from a gourmet block that is trying to "live season" their food, in this case a sweet desert dish. 

Title: Re: Which creature would be doing this?
Post by: Taran on May 05, 2017, 01:51:44 PM
Quantum, you sparked an idea.  Maybe a group of WCVampires that feed on gluttony.

Red court vampire types who spike the drink to get people addicted works too.  Making them easier prey.  Spiking drinks is a common tactic for Reds.  If the reds are dead, maybe someone has a supply of RC saliva and is looking for a way to profit on the limited supply. 

A combination of the two where Starbucks becomes the Raiths version of a strip club.   That said, an all you can eat buffet seems a better place for glutton vampires. 
Title: Re: Which creature would be doing this?
Post by: Quantus on May 05, 2017, 01:55:09 PM
Quantum, you sparked an idea.  Maybe a group of WCVampires that feed on gluttony.

Red court vampire types who spike the drink to get people addicted works too.  Making them easier prey.  Spiking drinks is a common tactic for Reds.  If the reds are dead, maybe someone has a supply of RC saliva and is looking for a way to profit on the limited supply. 

A combination of the two where Starbucks becomes the Raiths version of a strip club.   That said, an all you can eat buffet seems a better place for glutton vampires.
Maybe Something had a Rampire imprisoned in the NN or some other place with defenses powerful enough to block the bloodline curse, and now said Rampire is being imprisoned and tortured and milked like livestock?  It would be an interesting twist for the "innocent" that needs rescuing to be a Rampire...
Title: Re: Which creature would be doing this?
Post by: g33k on May 05, 2017, 02:07:26 PM
If the reds are dead, maybe someone has a supply of RC saliva and is looking for a way to profit on the limited supply. 
Now THAT's an evil thought.
I like it.
Title: Re: Which creature would be doing this?
Post by: g33k on May 05, 2017, 02:44:56 PM
Maybe Something had a Rampire imprisoned in the NN or some other place with defenses powerful enough to block the bloodline curse, and now said Rampire is being imprisoned and tortured and milked like livestock?  It would be an interesting twist for the "innocent" that needs rescuing to be a Rampire...
That's another evil thought!
You folks are geniuses.

(I note that "defenses" wouldn't AFAIK stop a bloodline curse -- at various times iirc Harry has been pretty clear that, magically speaking, "blood" bypasses pretty much any/all defenses.  Being in the Nevernever might do it (for your game, if you'd like some Rampires to surprise your players this seems like an excellent rationale!).).

Upon consideration:
1.  Where do RCV's come from?  What's the origin of the 1st-ever RCV?  Might there be a hidden reserve or pool of them (e.g. living natively in the Nevernever)?
2.  Maybe Lea wasn't the only one wearing a mask of one of the Lords of Outer Night:  maybe one of the LoON's scarpered off to the Nevernever when Fidelacchius made a showing (because you've gotta know that when a Knight shows up with a Sword and then an angel speaks through their voice, there's just a WORLD o' hurt about to come down on the Bad Guys!), leaving a lieutenant to fight and die in their place.
3.  IF the Nevernever is a sufficient protection from the bloodline curse... it would actually be kind of surprising (given all the thousands of RCVs & RCI's running around) if there weren't SEVERAL of these (accidentally or deliberately) NN-protected RCVs.
3a. If the bloodline curse has destroyed all the mortal-world RCVs and the connection between them, then Rampires coming out of the NN are now disconnected, and no single Bloodline curse can take them all down, anymore...
Title: Re: Which creature would be doing this?
Post by: dragoonbuster on May 05, 2017, 03:48:00 PM
(I note that "defenses" wouldn't AFAIK stop a bloodline curse -- at various times iirc Harry has been pretty clear that, magically speaking, "blood" bypasses pretty much any/all defenses.

Oh no, it just makes it easier. The whole reason the Reds were performing SO MANY sacrifices to charge their bloodline curse was so it could get through all of Eb's powerful defenses to kill him.
Title: Re: Which creature would be doing this?
Post by: g33k on May 05, 2017, 05:28:55 PM
Oh no, it just makes it easier. The whole reason the Reds were performing SO MANY sacrifices to charge their bloodline curse was so it could get through all of Eb's powerful defenses to kill him. 

Hmmm.  Has this understanding been confirmed via WOJ?

Because I note that the ritual got the *ENTIRE* Red Court, including the King and a dozen or so LoON's (who are (EACH of them) nearly Vaderung-level badasses), plus other RCV wizards & Powers of various stripes.

Granted that Eb probably has personal defenses among the top-5 of all mortal wizards, PLUS probably some Entire-Council-backed buffs (not to mention whatever unknown stuff he gets from wielding THE Black Staff).  Hard target, no two ways about it!  But remember also that the LoONs are power-mad megalomaniacs who don't trust one another; each LoON has been accumulating personal power for millennia, and has the expectation that the most-likely foes will be the peer-group -- other power-mad megalomaniacs who have been accumulating power for millennia.  Each will be at least as hard a target as Eb, and the King harder in turn than any one of them...

All taken down by the one ritual.
 
Title: Re: Which creature would be doing this?
Post by: blackstaff67 on May 06, 2017, 02:21:50 PM
I'm gonna guess that the Ritual allowed them to satisfy whatever Catch he may have had, since it's tied directly to his bloodline and him. Pretty good chance it satisfied their Catch as well.
Title: Re: Which creature would be doing this?
Post by: dragoonbuster on May 06, 2017, 10:12:29 PM
Hmmm.  Has this understanding been confirmed via WOJ?

I could be remembering Changes wrong but as I remember it that was pretty well spelled out as what the point was.

And while your point about the strength of the LoON and Red King are true--they had no idea where Eb would be and have no idea what his defenses are. If he was sitting in Edinburgh--which he would've been, if he hadn't come out to fight with the Gray Council, since the Duchess Ortega had called a conclave and whatnot--then they've got to get past the layers and layers of Sidhe and White Council wards sticked onto it for so long before they ever get to Eb's personal resources. If you have just one bullet to use, you make  sure it's big enough to do the job.

But we're off topic. Either way--the original point was that blood bypasses thresholds and protections. My point is I wouldn't judge it a complete catch-all, but it is a powerful starting point and will take you a long way there where without it you'd be looking at something that's impossible.
Title: Re: Which creature would be doing this?
Post by: Quantus on May 08, 2017, 01:47:06 PM
Changes established that the Real target was McCoy, and DB had already established that it would take Power on the scale of a freshly birthed /god/ to get past the defenses in place on the SC.  I didnt find a repeat of that part in Changes, though the conversation sure seems to take that fact for granted.