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Title: oneiromancer?
Post by: Yosepi on June 14, 2014, 11:26:48 PM

So I am relatively new to the am a, though a long time Dresden fan. I have a character concept(still looking for a game to use it in) that I am unsure how to go about. The idea is someone who interacts with and maybe even feeds on dreams. The abilities would include inducing sleep, manipulating dreams(and maybe emotions by extension) and illusions(bring dreams to life). As for challenges and draw backs include having hunger stress and maybe their own dreams sleep into the his waking vision i.e. hallucinations. As for the source of the power I am not interested in mortal practitioner...I don't really want to be a law breaker. A scion or a emissary of a Baku or Morpheus(the god)? The child of a dream focused phobophage(the fear things in proven guilty) I really don't know how to make this happen so I am asking for help :P

Title: Re: oneiromancer?
Post by: PirateJack on June 15, 2014, 01:23:48 AM

Sounds like you'd be best off with a scion of Morpheus, or something of the same type.

Powerset wise I'd go for something like this:

Emotional Vampire [-1] (Dreams)
Feeding Dependency [+0] (Dreams)
Incite Emotion [-1] (Lethargy)
Sponsored Magic [-4] (Oneiromancy)

That's a pretty basic set up with some room for improvement through the Incite Effect upgrade tree. Feeding Dependency is in there because it's a RAW power, but I think the most preferred method of dealing with it on these boards is through compels rather than using the given mechanics.

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ONEIROMANCY [-5]
Description: You have mastered the powers of Sleep and Dreams. Dreams are far more powerful than most believe; Dreams and Reality are like a wyrm biting its own tail - they both tell each other what they are, all the time.
Sponsor: Psychomancers, nightmare Changelings, and denizens of Dream sometimes have self-sponsored Oneiromancy. When Oneiromancy has an external sponsor, it's usually an ancient god of sleep or the ever-moving moon.
Agenda: Oneiromancy wants to put people to sleep, give them dreams or nightmares, and eat their dreams. Oneiromancers tend to be cold and proud, inclined to punish those who slight them.
Evocation: Oneiromancy evocations involve shadows, sand, reflections, perception, dreams, dreamfire, sleep, and the manipulation of oneiroplasm (psychically charged ectoplasm) to create objects.
Thaumaturgy: Oneiromancy rituals involve putting people to sleep, sending messages in dreams, manipulating perception, and making things from dreams real.
Evothaum: You gain the ability to use dream-related psychomancy, summoning, and conjuration with Evocation’s speed and methods.
Extra Benefits: Oneiromancy grants the Demesne power for the Dreaming. It also allows its user to use Lore in place of Empathy for the Reading People and Social Defense trappings of that skill.

Title: Re: oneiromancer?
Post by: Yosepi on June 15, 2014, 02:19:11 AM

Yeah looking at feeding dependency it is not exactly what I had in mind. I was looking at a bit of folklore and the sandman is one the few characters who's origin is more benevolent then other fairy tails, though some have taken a more heinous route with him through the years. His origin story is that he puts sand in children eyes to give them good dreams and was also known as a story teller. I could go that route. powers looking something like

Sponsored Magic [-4] (Oneiromancy)
World Walker[-2]
Glamours[-2]

Took the glamours cause they seem to fit, as well as world walker cause some parts of the never never could be similar to "dreams" Maybe having the trouble of the "needing" to experience the dreams of others using the sponsored magic or something like that. Would any other powers be usful? the sponsored magic i think would cover sleeping spell and such so that is covered.

Title: Re: oneiromancer?
Post by: PirateJack on June 15, 2014, 03:19:14 AM

Iirc it's canon that dreams take place in the Nevernever. It's how the Nightmare was able to bypass Harry's wards in Grave Peril; it waited until he was asleep and thus technically outside of the wards.

You don't really need glamours if you have Sponsored Magic, unless you want to partition the ability to use illusions from the ability to mess with minds (in which case you can drop Sponsored Magic down to Sponsored Ritual. Personally, I'd drop glamours and take a few stunts to round your character out some more.

Title: Re: oneiromancer?
Post by: Hick Jr on June 15, 2014, 03:22:01 AM

Y'know, as the creator of Oneriomancy, i'm no longer satisfied with it. The extra benefit is game/setting-specific, and the Lore bit isn't that good and doesn't really sound as justified. I'd replace it with either an oneiromantic Blood Drinker (Dream Eater), Glamours, or Telepathy.

Title: Re: oneiromancer?
Post by: PirateJack on June 15, 2014, 04:45:06 AM

Perhaps a re-write of Oneiromancy too?

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ONEIROMANCY [-4]
Description: You have been gifted with power over dreams and those who have them.
Sponsor: Morpheus, Hypnos, Nodens, the Sandman; the gods of sleep are many and varied. One of these has given you the power of Oneiromancy.
Agenda: Dreams and nightmares both fall under the purview of this god. Usually fair, if not benevolent, the God of Dreams is concerned with stories most of all. Oneiromancers tend to be more otherworldly than most practitioners, their powers giving them an insight into the surreal.
Evocation: Oneiromancy acts like Spirit for the purposes of Evocation, being primarily used for veils and illusions.
Thaumaturgy: Oneiromancers are capable of Psychomancy, Divination and Photomantic rituals in order to view, interpret and bring dreams into reality.
Evothaum: Oneiromancy allows you to use Psychomancy and Photomancy with the speed and methods of Evocation.
Extra Benefits: The surreal and illogical nature of dreams gives you greater insight into the workings of the Nevernever, the Land of Dreams. Gain +1 to any Lore rolls made to navigate the Nevernever.