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Title: How much time does Beast Change take?
Post by: Magicpockets on May 11, 2013, 04:50:06 AM
Quick question: How much time does Beast Change take? Is it a full exchange? A supplemental action? Maybe more?

Is there a RAW answer to this?
Title: Re: How much time does Beast Change take?
Post by: Tedronai on May 11, 2013, 05:52:53 AM
I'm away from books at the moment, but I believe it takes a supplemental action.
Title: Re: How much time does Beast Change take?
Post by: narphoenix on May 11, 2013, 06:50:25 AM
Given that there exists a stunt on the custom list to make supplementary, I think it's a full action by default.
Title: Re: How much time does Beast Change take?
Post by: Taran on May 11, 2013, 11:11:01 AM
True shape shifting takes longer than beast change for more complex things...taking several exchanges   But it says shifting into animals and humanoids is a supplemental.  So I take that to mean beast change is also a supplemental.
Title: Re: How much time does Beast Change take?
Post by: Troy on May 11, 2013, 01:04:40 PM
In the fiction, it always seems like Billy takes no time at all to transform into a wolf... no longer than it takes to pull off a t-shirt and drop trow.
Title: Re: How much time does Beast Change take?
Post by: Tedronai on May 11, 2013, 04:27:51 PM
The Custom Stunt list is not meaningfully fact-checked.  The existence of a stunt there should not be taken as indication of RAW.
If the power itself does not specify an action type, then the Shapeshifting section's intro states it to be supplementary.
Title: Re: How much time does Beast Change take?
Post by: Taran on May 12, 2013, 01:28:39 AM
YS pg 177

Under True Shapeshifting [–4]
Quote
Multi-Form. You may take on nearly any
humanoid or beastly form as a supplemental
action.
Changing into something else—say,
a tree, a vacuum cleaner, a water bed—takes
a longer amount of time, usually several
actions, or even minutes, depending on how
different.

I added the bolded.  I use this ruling for beast shape.

Title: Re: How much time does Beast Change take?
Post by: Cadd on May 12, 2013, 07:50:33 AM
Quote from: YS174
Unless explicitly noted otherwise, shapeshifting
may be done as a supplemental action.

This sort of settles it, as far as I see it. Beast Change does not "explicity note" how fast a change is, so the above general rule should be applied.
Title: Re: How much time does Beast Change take?
Post by: Sanctaphrax on May 13, 2013, 04:42:13 AM
Indeed.

If a stunt implies otherwise, that stunt has a problem. A problem I should probably fix.

Which stunt is it?