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Title: Story Research
Post by: Cooper on July 11, 2007, 04:33:30 PM
Basiclly, I'm writing a story that incorperates magic and modern technology under one roof and I have a problem.  Even though I'm writing magic, I just don't have a dahm clue what it is.  I have two questions:

(1)  In stories today, like the Dresden files, does it involve research in a specific area of magic or just made up?

(2) How do I go about research on magic?
Title: Re: Story Research
Post by: Yeratel on July 11, 2007, 05:43:23 PM
Basiclly, I'm writing a story that incorperates magic and modern technology under one roof and I have a problem.  Even though I'm writing magic, I just don't have a dahm clue what it is.  I have two questions:

(1)  In stories today, like the Dresden files, does it involve research in a specific area of magic or just made up?

(2) How do I go about research on magic?
It's hard to know where to start, but I'd suggest a good beginning would be to read a lot of the fiction that's already out there, like the Dresden books and the Potter books, to get a feel for a world view that encompases both magic and tech.  Something that encompases both are the "Incompleat Enchanter" stories of L. Sprague DeCamp, which treat magic spells as a type of mathematical logic syllogisms, which I haven't seen any other author use, but which would seem to have a lot of potential. I wouldn't waste a lot of time researching "real magick" as followed by folks who consider themselves to be occult practitioners; you'll never get it "right", according to all of the many varied beliefs out there, and it doesn't really matter in a work of fiction aimed at non-occultists, anyway.
Title: Re: Story Research
Post by: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on July 11, 2007, 05:49:05 PM
Basiclly, I'm writing a story that incorperates magic and modern technology under one roof and I have a problem.  Even though I'm writing magic, I just don't have a dahm clue what it is.  I have two questions:

(1)  In stories today, like the Dresden files, does it involve research in a specific area of magic or just made up?

(2) How do I go about research on magic?

As Yeratel says, there are an awful lot of different notions as to how magic works, in belief systems and in fiction, and it's pointless trying to please everyone or match all of them.

If it were me, I'd think about what I wanted my book to be like, what tone I wanted it to take - should the magic be grim and gritty and exhausting and wear eveyryone out any time they use it, which would be good in a noir sort of setting where being exhausted goes with the territory, or should there be lots of it around in ways that feel more superheroey, or should it be numinous and mystic and spiritual, sort of thing - and then decide how to make it work based on what you want it to come out like.

Personally, I really don't like it when magic in books feels like somebody thinks that the D&D magic system is The Way Magic Works and I can almost hear the dice rolling behind each spell, but this is just me.
Title: Re: Story Research
Post by: Cooper on July 12, 2007, 04:51:10 AM

Personally, I really don't like it when magic in books feels like somebody thinks that the D&D magic system is The Way Magic Works and I can almost hear the dice rolling behind each spell, but this is just me.

Yeah.  Good thing I never read any of those D&D books.  Even though I was creating my story from school and others think that the scenario (hope i got the spelling right on that one) was excellent, I just kept on thinking "how do these guys use magic in everyday life" for my characters.