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The Dresden Files => DFRPG => Topic started by: dmnsqrl on June 25, 2011, 04:53:45 PM
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Looking for a name for someone who does the 'subtle' version of Channelling:Spirit.... Kinetomancer seems to go with the 'brute force' version... but I haven't really seen what term people might use for the 'subtle' version
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"Pneuma-mancy" and "psykhe-mancy" would be the direct (if bastardized) Greek tanslations. Pneuma for breath / motile air / spirit and psykhe for soul.
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Since Harry does veils and emits light from his pentacle with spirit, I always see spirit being tied to Photomancy. Even if the books says it's usually fire/photomancy.
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Animancer
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You could simply call it telekinesis, moving objects with your will.
If you wan a -mancy option, poltermancy comes to mind, doing poltergeist effects with magic. Or even by actually using a friendly spirit.
Edit: after some research (looking through an online translater that is), I found 2 other descriptions that might fit better.
Movomancer and Momentomancer.
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Looking for a name for someone who does the 'subtle' version of Channelling:Spirit.... Kinetomancer seems to go with the 'brute force' version... but I haven't really seen what term people might use for the 'subtle' version
Subtle arts practitioner/master :)
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"Pneuma-mancy" and "psykhe-mancy" would be the direct (if bastardized) Greek tanslations. Pneuma for breath / motile air / spirit and psykhe for soul.
Yes.
Though I think it would probably be formed "pneumatomancy", and we already have "psychomancy" for mind magic specifically.
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Subtle arts practitioner/master :)
:) Much resonance with this response :)
I've been reading everything and .... while I'm thinking more and more I might actually not end up associating a 'mancy' term with the character I'm thinking of after all, everything that has been said so far has been really helping me flesh out my thinking on the whole Spirit Evocation thing and has been very helpful :)
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I've been searching some more, and it turns out, the "mancy" prefix is actually derived from the greek word for "divination". I know it is typical to name them like that, and since I never knew what exactly it meant, I was fine with it. But now... I'm not so sure, there might be better words.
But that helps me where I was stuck on getting the -mancers translated to German. I am not going to go with a mancer or divination translation, but simply "Flammenwirker" for a Pyromancer, which I would translate back as "Firecaster".
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I've been searching some more, and it turns out, the "mancy" prefix is actually derived from the greek word for "divination". I know it is typical to name them like that, and since I never knew what exactly it meant, I was fine with it. But now... I'm not so sure, there might be better words.
But that helps me where I was stuck on getting the -mancers translated to German. I am not going to go with a mancer or divination translation, but simply "Flammenwirker" for a Pyromancer, which I would translate back as "Firecaster".
Huh, very kewl point..... do you think it would be fair to call someone with Channelling: Spirit a 'will-weaver'?
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Huh, very kewl point..... do you think it would be fair to call someone with Channelling: Spirit a 'will-weaver'?
I'd say not. All magic is about will. The kinetomancer is as will-oriented as the pyromancer which is as will-oriented as someone focusing on veils.
Honestly, I think Llayne hit the nail on the head with photomancer. A lot of what someone like that is doing is manipulating light. Though if you want something that sounds more mystical, auromancer will work in a pinch.
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I'd say not. All magic is about will. The kinetomancer is as will-oriented as the pyromancer which is as will-oriented as someone focusing on veils.
Honestly, I think Llayne hit the nail on the head with photomancer. A lot of what someone like that is doing is manipulating light. Though if you want something that sounds more mystical, auromancer will work in a pinch.
something relating to the idea of 'auras' does seem more.... spirity
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Huh, very kewl point..... do you think it would be fair to call someone with Channelling: Spirit a 'will-weaver'?
I would just call him a "Spirit Weaver". It does convey that he is using his power rather delicate instead of just using blunt force. Something like "Forceslinger" would be more appropriate for that, though I think the word is a bit of, there might be a better solution.
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"Esper".
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Nice.....
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"Esper".
I thought Esper was rooted in the acronym "ESP," which implies perception more than telekinesis?
(It's probably been corrupted expanded to include other psionic effects).
My vote would be for kinetomancer.
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I thought Esper was rooted in the acronym "ESP," which implies perception more than telekinesis?
(It's probably been corrupted expanded to include other psionic effects).
My vote would be for kinetomancer.
See, I personally don't like using kinetomancer because it seems to focus on just the force effects and not the light effects.... Admittedly, maybe a lot of Spirit evokers _are_ focusing on the force effects but I'm not seeing this character doing that...
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Animancer
Oooh, I didn't see this before... I _like_ that :)
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I would just call him a "Spirit Weaver". It does convey that he is using his power rather delicate instead of just using blunt force. Something like "Forceslinger" would be more appropriate for that, though I think the word is a bit of, there might be a better solution.
My concern with the term "Spirit weaver" is that unlike "Will weaver" or "Will Worker" (which to me implies weaving your own will to make something happen) "Spirit Weaver" to me seems to imply affecting someone _else's_ spirit.... which 1. isn't how Channeling:Spirit works and 2. would be an invitation to an awkward conversation with some Wardens.... but since the game is so much in play about the play of words, I'm not sure if I am comfortable with a term that has so much dissonance between its natural meaning and the Dresden Files rules....
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If by channeling spirits, you mean like Mortimer Lindquist, the psychic in the books or Whoopi Goldberg in Ghost, the term in the books is "Ectomancy"? Dresden refers to Mortimer as an Ectomancer.
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I'm talking about the skill 'Channelling' which is the lower level form of 'Evocation' used by focused practitioners and is usually specialized by element.... the book suggests Spirit as an element and says that it deals with force (so you could throw force at someone, like a magic missile..... also this covers moving things like telekinesis) and light and also involves veils (the 'instapoof' variety rather than the thaumaturgy/ritual variety)
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I call my spirit-mancer a Shaman
(with Ghost Speaker, Psychometry and Spirit Form...)
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Shaman is a pretty good name for certain Spirit-based powers/spells/rituals. Esper, if assumed to be dealing with ESP, could be a good one too: one of the sample evocation spells is Hyperawareness, for example. It is possible your character has ways of enhancing her senses on the fly in different manners, such as gaining greater eyesight. Technically, it's not ESP, but, hey, making people believe you can do more than you actually can, can be handy :)
You could always become a Self-Styled Jedi :)
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I call my spirit-mancer a Shaman
(with Ghost Speaker, Psychometry and Spirit Form...)
To me the word shaman would be more a description of how the character is in contact with his magic rather than what he can do. You know, totems, chanting, dancing, the whole shebang.
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To me the word shaman would be more a description of how the character is in contact with his magic rather than what he can do. You know, totems, chanting, dancing, the whole shebang.
If you want to be stereotypical about it, sure. I play a modern inheritor of ancestral spiritual powers, all the classic tribal shaman stuff, but no rattles or two-steps. Ghosts just start showing up and asking for stuff, flashes strike when something is picked up. He can also channel spirit and shapeshift into a bear. We can be creative and make it work.