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Title: Writing Cons
Post by: blgarver on April 13, 2007, 04:09:32 PM
So I was talking a little bit with Shannon at Jim's signing in Overland Park, and during the convo she suggested that I become a face to the editors and agents I'm submitting to.  And then I read on Jim's home page that's exactly what he did, and the lady who'd rejected him before, then got interested because she had actually met him.

Well, Shannon suggested I start going to writers conferences and conventions where agents and editors and such are there scouting for new talent.  Okay, awesome, I'm all for it.  However, I'm not real sure how to find out where or when any of these type of events are.

I'm a Missouri boy, and not a rich one, so I'd like to find a Con in Missouri right now, so I could attend.  If not in MO, then that's cool, I'll make it work. 

Does anyone know of any upcoming conventions or conferences or know where I could go to find out for myself?

Also, what are your experiences at these types of events?
Title: Re: Writing Cons
Post by: pathele on April 13, 2007, 04:27:28 PM
There's the obvious one: Pike's Peak writers convention (Colorado Springs)  Jim is going to be there.
Other than that, not a clue. 

-paul
Title: Re: Writing Cons
Post by: blgarver on April 13, 2007, 04:31:14 PM
Colorado Springs, eh?  I do have some vacation time coming up...plus I've got a friend that lives in Colorado, who enjoys writing also.

Thanks for the tip!
Title: Re: Writing Cons
Post by: pathele on April 13, 2007, 04:34:00 PM
Another approach might be to identify the editor/agent that you want to 'target' for you work and then do a google search for their name and conventions. You might get lucky.

-paul
Title: Re: Writing Cons
Post by: blgarver on April 13, 2007, 05:02:45 PM
Yeah.  I'm pretty clueless on where to start.  I don't have a completed manuscript of anything yet, so I haven't even been searching for agents or anything.

I was mainly wanting to go just to get myself into the world a little bit, and learn more about the business.

I should have my book finished in a few months, though, so then I'll start searching for people.

and crap, the Pike's Peak is next weekend.  Too short of notice...  Maybe next year.
Title: Re: Writing Cons
Post by: Mickey Finn on April 13, 2007, 05:10:20 PM
www.dfwcon.org

Seriously good writer's con.
Title: Re: Writing Cons
Post by: blgarver on April 13, 2007, 05:37:28 PM
www.dfwcon.org

Seriously good writer's con.

Hey, Mickey, that link didn't work. 
Title: Re: Writing Cons
Post by: pathele on April 13, 2007, 05:53:48 PM
www.condfw.org
and it was in March. Have to wait for next year.

-paul
Title: Re: Writing Cons
Post by: blgarver on April 13, 2007, 07:36:53 PM
Okay, cool.  That worked.  I'll do my homework and prepare for next time.  Thanks guys!
Title: Re: Writing Cons
Post by: Tasmin21 on April 13, 2007, 10:19:55 PM
Slightly off topic, but I have to ask...

Which one were you? ;)  I was at the Overland Park signing too.
Title: Re: Writing Cons
Post by: blgarver on April 13, 2007, 11:00:44 PM
Slightly off topic, but I have to ask...

Which one were you? ;)  I was at the Overland Park signing too.

I was the guy in the big blue news jacket, standing over by Jim's chair during the Q&A.  I asked him if he outlined a lot before he started to write a book, and my friend who was standing right beside me asked him who he would liked to have direct the Dresden Files if it ever went to the big screen.  I had a grey Targus backpack and my firend had blue and black bookbag.

Uh...we were the youngest ones there I think.  I have black spikey hair and a chin strap/goatee...that's how most people identify me.

Any of that ring a bell?
Title: Re: Writing Cons
Post by: Tasmin21 on April 14, 2007, 02:00:02 PM
I think i was on the other side of the bookcases from you during the question and answer period, 'cause I couldn't see who asked the director question.

I was the long curly haired female in the black leather biker jacket.
Title: Re: Writing Cons
Post by: blgarver on April 14, 2007, 02:53:07 PM
Hmmm, I don't remember any long females.

 ;)
Title: Re: Writing Cons
Post by: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on April 14, 2007, 06:34:10 PM
Another approach might be to identify the editor/agent that you want to 'target' for you work and then do a google search for their name and conventions. You might get lucky.

Do bear in mind that editors are people too, and conventions are at least as much about having fun to them as about doing business; if you hard-sell yourself at a stranger, it's very easy to turn them right off and earn a name as a pushy jerk.
Title: Re: Writing Cons
Post by: blgarver on April 14, 2007, 07:30:54 PM
Yeah, I'm not looking to do that.  I just want to go and get involved, be part of the world I claim to be a part of.  The first few I attend won't even be about business.  Those will be just pure nerd fun, and about meeting people. 

I think it would be awesome to be at a huge gathering with like-minded people.
Title: Re: Writing Cons
Post by: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on April 15, 2007, 02:33:04 AM
Yeah, I'm not looking to do that.  I just want to go and get involved, be part of the world I claim to be a part of.  The first few I attend won't even be about business.  Those will be just pure nerd fun, and about meeting people. 
I think it would be awesome to be at a huge gathering with like-minded people.

It is.  Though I'd recommend one towards the smaller end of the scale for a first experience... or indeed in general, come to think of it, I've been to two Worldcons, which are at the 5,000-person scale, and they're not IMO near so much fun as various convention-type things I've been to at around the 1000-person scale - basically because it takes so much extra effort to organise everything, and if you don't you miss people rather than just sitting somewhere central and relying on them walking by.
Title: Re: Writing Cons
Post by: Tasmin21 on April 15, 2007, 04:02:49 AM
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Hmmm, I don't remember any long females.

 :P

And on topic, I too have been pondering this "con" concept, but sadly with my work schedule/motherhood/funds I can't just pick up and go to things like that if they're not close.  I hope it's not a requirement to be in the club. ;)
Title: Re: Writing Cons
Post by: Cathy Clamp on April 15, 2007, 06:05:56 PM
No, it's not a requirement, but it sure is helpful to get to meet others who write. Internet forums are awesome, but there's nothing quite like meeting people in person to get a sense of the similarities between other writers. 

What genre do you write, bigarver?  ??? There are a bunch of genre-specific conferences to plan for that would probably serve you better than just random ones that happen to be close to you. Plus, not everything has to be a writer's conference. Editors and agents also attend conventions (fan-based events) because writers hang out where their readers are, and editors/agents hang out where their writers are. It's a big happy family at conventions!  ;D

Title: Re: Writing Cons
Post by: pathele on April 15, 2007, 11:55:31 PM
Do bear in mind that editors are people too, and conventions are at least as much about having fun to them as about doing business; if you hard-sell yourself at a stranger, it's very easy to turn them right off and earn a name as a pushy jerk.
good call, neurovore.  I was thinking of conferences where they have sessions with editors and agents. I was in no way advocating anyone trying the hard-sell on an editor/agent.

-paul
Title: Re: Writing Cons
Post by: DRD2001 on April 19, 2007, 02:43:24 AM
When looking for a con, you have to consider what genre you'll be writing or wish to write. If it's fantasy/sci-fi then I'd use this website.

http://www.scificonventions.com/html/findevent.php

Smaller cons can be good because it does give an opportunity for more one on one contact. But larger cons may cater to more writers or have more discussion panels for new writers. Aside from meeting publishers, cons may also give you the opportunity to network with other writers.

A friend of mine who is working on her own comic book often gives out a printed sample issue to various publishers and people in related fields. It's really helped her open doors because it showcases all her talents. But it is a financial investment. And only now is it starting to pay off.

Each year, I go to Dragon*Con in Atlanta, GA. Huge con. Tons of writers. Right now, there are 41 on the guest list. By September, it will rise to about 400 (media, music, writers, artists etc...). But it can be an expensive convention to attend.
Title: Re: Writing Cons
Post by: blgarver on April 20, 2007, 02:10:05 PM
:P

And on topic, I too have been pondering this "con" concept, but sadly with my work schedule/motherhood/funds I can't just pick up and go to things like that if they're not close.  I hope it's not a requirement to be in the club. ;)

If you're in the KC area, I found a con that's happening in May, I think, in KCMO.  I don't have the info in front of me right now, but I'll round it up and confirm.
Title: Re: Writing Cons
Post by: Tasmin21 on April 20, 2007, 11:14:26 PM
Oh excellent!  Let me know what you find out!
Title: Re: Writing Cons
Post by: blgarver on April 22, 2007, 07:20:10 PM
Oh excellent!  Let me know what you find out!

Yep.  There are actually several coming up this summer.  The one in May I was thinking of is called ConQuest.  Here's a link of the KC area nerdfests for this summer.

http://www.sff.net/people/sfreader/sflinks.htm

Enjoy!
Title: Re: Writing Cons
Post by: Dom on April 23, 2007, 04:00:55 PM
Slightly off topic...whenever I see this topic title, I think of either "Writers in Prison" or "The cons of writing" (as in, pros and cons).  :D
Title: Re: Writing Cons
Post by: blgarver on April 23, 2007, 04:25:45 PM
Slightly off topic...whenever I see this topic title, I think of either "Writers in Prison" or "The cons of writing" (as in, pros and cons).  :D

Lol.  That had actually crossed my mind also.