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The Dresden Files => DFRPG => Topic started by: bitterpill on February 08, 2011, 04:31:42 AM
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In the book when it talks about the limitations of stunts it says you can get a plus one to attack accuracy does this apply to defense?
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I do not have the book on me, but based on all the stuff I have read defensive stunts would be a +1 or an effect. It does not seem op given that inhuman speed is roughly 4 stunts for 2 refresh and gives +1 defense.
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I do not have the book on me, but based on all the stuff I have read defensive stunts would be a +1 or an effect. It does not seem op given that inhuman speed is roughly 4 stunts for 2 refresh and gives +1 defense.
Indeed, my method of building mortal stunts is to give +1 as a blanket effect or +2 for something specific. Either that or +2 for something a bit broader, but with a -1 to something tacked on there too.
Ymmv
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Thank you kindly, so a +1 bonus to defence whilst weilding a sword is ok but a +2 would be excessive unless you add something like a -1 to hit.
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Thank you kindly, so a +1 bonus to defence whilst weilding a sword is ok but a +2 would be excessive unless you add something like a -1 to hit.
Probably, yes. The way I would run it is that you get +2 to defense if you defend melee with a sword, but your next attack is at -1 to attack. That would not be overpowered. In some ways it would be like a cross between sprinting and zone changing rules.
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I disagree. The rules for stunt creation say that attack bonuses are limited to +1, but they don't say anything about defence bonuses.
Also, one of the example Athletics stunts gives +2 to defence under certain circumstances.
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I disagree. The rules for stunt creation say that attack bonuses are limited to +1, but they don't say anything about defence bonuses.
Also, one of the example Athletics stunts gives +2 to defence under certain circumstances.
Sprinting.
While sprinting you get +2 to defense rolls if you have inhuman speed.
Total defense.
If your character declares total defense and takes a defensive action during his/her action, they get +2 to defense the rest of the round.
Moving one zone as a supplemental action.
Means the character's actual action will be at -1.
Using those trappings as a template or statute, one could figure that +2 to defense using a sword (probably a specific weapon would have to be named) on a defense roll at the cost of -1 to any action on the player's action would be appropriate.
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I don't follow your logic. Sprinting is not a supplemental action, it's a full action. I base my opinion on:
A) The lack of a specific reference to defensive stunts anywhere in either book.
and B) The "Too Fast To Hit" stunt on page 149 of YS.
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I don't follow your logic. Sprinting is not a supplemental action, it's a full action. I base my opinion on:
A) The lack of a specific reference to defensive stunts anywhere in either book.
and B) The "Too Fast To Hit" stunt on page 149 of YS.
::shrug:: It's not RAW, so whether the stunt would be allowed or not would be at the GM's discretion.
If I were GMing I think I would also take into account whether the character is supernatural or not. Supernatural stunts/powers should be a bit more powerful in my opinion to reflect the extra 2 refresh a pure mortal character gets.
Either way, I think even the most hardcore GM would agree that a -2 to the character's next action would make the stunt allowable.
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It is RAW, actually. A stunt can add +2 to a non-attack trapping. They even give an example of how that works with defence.
If you mean that the GM can disallow such a stunt because it isn't in the core book, remember that a GM can disallow stunts that are in the core book too.
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Ok so the rules tend to side with the idea of a plus 2 to defence in certain circumstances?
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This is from an out of date pdf, my gm looks after the
books which we group bought. Which is why i
assume a flat +2 to defence was wrong.
Perhaps reconsider referencing an acknowledged out-of-date PDF on the boards? It could definitely reduce confusion.
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kk my bad.
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And, bitterpill, no offense, but please, please, please, try to proofread your posts before posting them. I've been skipping over your posts because it's been getting frustrating trying to read and then comprehend a big block of text that is misspelled and poorly punctuated. And that's not a good habit for me to be getting into and it's not fair to you either.
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Sorry about that too I am dyslexic but I have defiantly been letting that go. It was sloppy of me and I will check my posts in future so as to avoid any further offense.
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Sorry about that too I am dyslexic but I have defiantly been letting that go. It was sloppy of me and I will check my posts in future so as to avoid any further offense.
Try doing what my dyslexic friend does. It's a pain but doesn't add that much time to posting.
He writes what he wants to say in Microsoft Word. That gives him the red and green squiggly lines. Then he just fixes his text there and copies it, then pastes it as a forum post.
His posts look really nice on forums even though what he starts with looks like something a 6 year old wrote. :)
Your posts really aren't /that/ bad so it should go pretty quickly for you.
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And, really, my standards are a bit high; I just spent the previous semester doing a student-teaching seminar class, in 6th-8th grade English classes. So I'll be the first to admit that I've become a bit hyper-sensitized to that sort of thing. (and now that I know the reason, I'll keep it in mind, instead of assuming sloppiness, promise)
BumblingBear's suggestion is a good one, but remember that it won't catch everything. Definitely/Defiantly, effect/affect, and so forth. Or, as the wonderful little bit of humor I shared with my students went:
Eye halve a spelling chequer
It came with my pea sea
It plainly Marx four my revue
Miss steaks eye can knot sea.
Eye strike quay and type a word.
And weight four it two say
Weather I eye am wrong oar write
It shows me strait a weigh.
As soon as a mist ache is made
It nose bee fore two long
And eye can put the era rite
Its rare lea ever wrong.
Eye have run this poem threw
I am shore your pleased two no
Its letter- perfect awl the weigh
My chequer tolled me sew.
;D
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^^^ That made my eyes bleed.
Kill it. Kill it NOW.
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^^^ That made my eyes bleed.
Kill it. Kill it NOW.
ROTFLMAO!
;D
Note to self: BumblingBear is allergic to puns. Symptoms include bleeding from the eyes. :o Thus, save weapons-grade puns for when clearing the field is necessary. ;D
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What do you call drinking Tequila at Night?
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What do you call drinking Tequila at Night?
::) Lightweight. Here, have a really nerdy one:
The new commander in Iraq hears that a Scottish regiment has a specialized field hospital that's doing fantastic things with the troops. He wants to know what is so special about the place, so he arranges a tour.
When he gets to the ward, it's full of patients with no obvious sign of injury or illness. He's perplexed, so goes up to the first bed and greets the soldier there.
The patient replies:
"Fair fa your honest sonsie face,
Great chieftain o the puddin race,
Aboon them a ye take yer place,
Painch, tripe or thairm,
As langs my airm."
The general is confused, so he just grins and moves on to the next patient.
That soldier responds:
"Some hae meat an canna eat,
And some wad eat that want it,
But we hae meat an we can eat,
So let the Lord be thankit."
Even more confused, and his grin now rictus-like, the commander moves on to the next patient, who immediately begins to chant:
"Wee sleekit, cowerin, timorous beasty,
O the panic in thy breasty,
Thou needna start awa sae hastie,
Wi bickering brattle."
Now seriously troubled, the general turns to the accompanying doctor and asks, "Is this a psychiatric ward?"
"No, not at all," replies the doctor. "This is the Serious Burns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Burns) unit."
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Facepalm
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"No, not at all," replies the doctor. "This is the Serious Burns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Burns) unit."
Sadly, the general was too late to see the fatal spectacle of poor Robert browning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Browning).