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The Dresden Files => DFRPG => Topic started by: Wyrdrune on December 22, 2010, 08:52:17 AM

Title: Very Dumb Question about "The Catch"
Post by: Wyrdrune on December 22, 2010, 08:52:17 AM

although i am being a DFRPG GM for a while, i am still puzzled over one thing:

what happens if the catch is satisfied? maybe i missed it in the books, but i came to 2 (or 3) different answers. luckily the most enemies my players had to go up against were cannon fodder and therefore without toughness or recovery powers.

i have three theories and would like to be sure which one is correct.
a) when the catch is satisfied, the toughness and recovery is completely negated. (i think i read that somewhere, but can't find it again. i think it was with the sowrd of the cross power.)
b) when the catch is satisfied, toughness and recovery are used as if one category less than it is. (i think i also read that somewhere in YS.)
c) both are true. (the sword completely negates the powers, but other catches only reduce them by one category.)

i am sure you can help me out.

Title: Re: Very Dumb Question about "The Catch"
Post by: MijRai on December 22, 2010, 09:11:27 AM

The Catch, whether it be Cold Iron, Holy Water, or some other thing, completely ignores Toughness, and Recovery does not apply to wounds caused by your Catch. Or, it could be run as a Compell against the High Concept for other things.

Soulfire has the ability to downgrade the Toughness of some things, depending on what it is. You could also make a power to do that yourself.

Title: Re: Very Dumb Question about "The Catch"
Post by: Drashna on December 23, 2010, 03:40:07 AM

So, if you have 3 physical stress normally, and inhuman toughness, against your catch, you're treated as only having 3, right? so a 4 stress hit would take you out?

Title: Re: Very Dumb Question about "The Catch"
Post by: Sanctaphrax on December 23, 2010, 04:21:44 AM

Yes.

Title: Re: Very Dumb Question about "The Catch"
Post by: Mij on December 23, 2010, 07:32:35 AM

That's why powers with a Catch are usually highlighted in some way.  To use your example, extra stress boxes from inhuman toughness are put in parentheses.  It's to remind you that if the Catch is satisfied, they go away.

Hope this helps!

Title: Re: Very Dumb Question about "The Catch"
Post by: Wyrdrune on December 23, 2010, 08:25:40 AM

thank you everyone. after reading all answers here and re-reading some parts of YS i think i found where my confusion came from. i mistook the ability of some sponsored magics to be more effective against some targets (like summer vs. winter) for the catch.

thanks again, everything is clear now.

Title: Re: Very Dumb Question about "The Catch"
Post by: Drashna on December 24, 2010, 07:59:41 AM

It is what I thought, but wanted other's input, and to make sure there was clarification.