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The Dresden Files => DFRPG => Topic started by: eberg on December 08, 2010, 07:51:51 PM

Title: Nevernever Bypass Wards and Threshold?
Post by: eberg on December 08, 2010, 07:51:51 PM
If a being enters a building through the Nevernever, are they still subject to the threshold and wards?
Title: Re: Nevernever Bypass Wards and Threshold?
Post by: admiralducksauce on December 08, 2010, 10:22:48 PM
I don't think so, because in Changes
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Title: Re: Nevernever Bypass Wards and Threshold?
Post by: Sanctaphrax on December 08, 2010, 10:32:27 PM
Perhaps protection against intrusion through the Nevernever could be an extra option for a ward. I think that a cost of 2 complexity would be appropriate.
Title: Re: Nevernever Bypass Wards and Threshold?
Post by: sinker on December 08, 2010, 10:34:09 PM
The "No Mortal Home" trapping for worldwalker implies that thresholds may still have some power when someone's traveling into them from the Nevernever, but yeah they've definitely bypassed wards unless the wards are specifically set up to guard against entry from the Nevernever.
Title: Re: Nevernever Bypass Wards and Threshold?
Post by: MijRai on December 08, 2010, 11:16:20 PM
Ward seem to be bypassable, not Thresholds.
Title: Re: Nevernever Bypass Wards and Threshold?
Post by: Nyarlathotep5150 on December 08, 2010, 11:49:04 PM
   It would bypass any wards that are set to go off when something crosses the boundary of your threshold (you didn't cross it, you just materialized within it), but the protection of the threshold is more of an aura, covering the area within it, not a wall around the house, so you'd still be subject to its effect (including it acting as a block against you crossing over from the nevernever).
Title: Re: Nevernever Bypass Wards and Threshold?
Post by: devonapple on December 09, 2010, 12:05:55 AM
   It would bypass any wards that are set to go off when something crosses the boundary of your threshold (you didn't cross it, you just materialized within it), but the protection of the threshold is more of an aura, covering the area within it, not a wall around the house, so you'd still be subject to its effect (including it acting as a block against you crossing over from the nevernever).

So, we can presume from
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that:
a) creatures *could* cross into a space with a Threshold and Wards, albeit with the standard Threshold limitations on their power (Block), and
b)
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Title: Re: Nevernever Bypass Wards and Threshold?
Post by: Ryan_Singer on December 09, 2010, 12:38:04 AM
So, we can presume from
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that:
a) creatures *could* cross into a space with a Threshold and Wards, albeit with the standard Threshold limitations on their power (Block), and
b)
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Given that Harry has an anemic bachelor threshold, I think that (b) is a fair assumption.
Title: Re: Nevernever Bypass Wards and Threshold?
Post by: Nyarlathotep5150 on December 09, 2010, 12:49:10 AM
So, we can presume from
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that:
a) creatures *could* cross into a space with a Threshold and Wards, albeit with the standard Threshold limitations on their power (Block), and
b)
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  I'd agree with both, but thats just my opinion.
Title: Re: Nevernever Bypass Wards and Threshold?
Post by: Fiordhraoi on December 14, 2010, 06:34:32 PM
There is actually a specific reference to this in Chapter 23 of White Knight:

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