In addition, there is nothing holy about doing sex in order to fill it up faster. At least, not in the way most people think. ;D
In addition, there is nothing holy about doing sex in order to fill it up faster. At least, not in the way most people think. ;Dhuh? not sure where you pulled that from - unless you misread charity as chastity.
huh? not sure where you pulled that from - unless you misread charity as chastity.
I believe he's referring to the story where Harry mentionsand Bob says something about it being "good for the soul" and restoring the bits of soul he spent with Soulfire.(click to show/hide)
You can start recovery from consequences from the hunger attack by doing something life-affirming and "good for the soul". Likewise, to restore powerloss, you skip scenes, and are assumed to be resting and doing "good for the soul"-type things in the background.
I don't see a lot of difference between this and what's in the book. In YS, it already counts as 'holy' and 'fire' for free, and also counts bypasses one level of Toughness all of the time. In addition, you still have the usual option of spending Fate to further boost it or to accept debt to further boost it.
With regards to the hunger rules ... well, the idea of burning off soul and needing to slowly replenish it does sound a lot like hunger. Or at least the way hunger ought to work. The rules in DFRPG seem very quirky to me at best, though, so applying them to Soulfire doesn't appeal to me. After all, you'd only need to not use Soulfire for one scene to get back that Soul you burned, right? In any case, as stated it would be pretty trivial for a Wizard with a decent Discipline to make use of 1-2 free Fate worth of Debt per scene with no ill effects -- and even if you got a mild consequence, it would go away in a scene -- whereas with the Debt rules each Fate borrowed gets repaid in kind.
I think that the Debt rules are pretty decent, though it might make sense to tweak back the way repayment of Debt works. For example, it might make sense that the Debt is not repayed via compels at all ... instead, any new Fate you earn is automatically applied to buy down the debt. Harry doesn't seem to be forced to do much of anything to 'pay' for his use of Soulfire; he just is weakened for a while (which translates here to taking longer to build up more Fate).
Of note the Naagloshi doesn't necessarily have the "Holy" catch, so there's no reason to believe that harry should have killed it outright. The way soulfire is currently described in the RPG books is that it satisfies the "Holy" catch and slightly downgrades any other toughness powerThere's no reason to believe that that isn't an adequate description of how soulfire works in the novels.(click to show/hide)
Although I'm merely arguing about the catch bit. If you feel you need a better mechanic for how it's used then by all means.
Hunger rules simply provide a mechanic that substitutes debt for complications and powerloss, and specifies how long it takes to "regrow" the soul. My point was that hunger rules as they currently exist model what happens in the books better than debt.In theory, I agree. The concept of Hunger might apply well to loss of soul. But the actual mechanics given for Hunger ... well, I'm less than impressed with them, which makes me less eager to reuse them. :)
Harry doesn't seem to be forced to do much of anything to 'pay' for his use of Soulfire; he just is weakened for a while (which translates here to taking longer to build up more Fate).