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Title: Stress Boxes
Post by: Arctanus on August 30, 2010, 02:26:02 PM
I searched the forums for Stress first, and couldn't find what I was looking for. Doesn't mean it isn't there, I just didn't find it if it is.

Okay, so I see that everyone starts with 2 stress boxes. There is a skill for each of them that can increase the number of boxes up to 4. Then there's Toughness, which increases the Physical stress boxes by twos. My question is, is there a way to increase the other stress boxes? I haven't found one in the book yet, but I'll keep looking.
Title: Re: Stress Boxes
Post by: TheMouse on August 30, 2010, 02:34:34 PM
Conviction and Presence add mental and social boxes respectively. I don't believe that there are any ways to add more boxes to either listed in the book.

If you decide to add something that does this, just be careful that you take the limiting effect of mental stress boxes on spell casting into account.
Title: Re: Stress Boxes
Post by: Arctanus on August 30, 2010, 02:48:10 PM
I was just wondering if there was a Supernatural Ability equivalent for the other two stress tracks, or a way to get them past 4 boxes.

Also, unrelated question, as far as character advancement goes you aren't limited to 10 Refresh, are you?
Title: Re: Stress Boxes
Post by: HobbitGuy1420 on August 30, 2010, 02:53:36 PM
Nope; In the books, Harry's got to be up to 14 or 16 refresh by now. 

As long as the players keep racking up Major Milestones, they can keep gaining Refresh.
Title: Re: Stress Boxes
Post by: Arctanus on August 30, 2010, 03:06:49 PM
Alright, thanks. I got both books, and there are a bunch of characters that have more than -9 refresh. I wasn't really sure if that was intended for NPCs or what.
Title: Re: Stress Boxes
Post by: TheMouse on August 30, 2010, 04:09:35 PM
Nope; In the books, Harry's got to be up to 14 or 16 refresh by now. 

If you look at him at the end of Changes, I'd say he's actually up to a bit more than that. I haven't done an exact point by point examination, but I'm pretty sure he breaks 20 by that point.
Title: Re: Stress Boxes
Post by: Arctanus on August 30, 2010, 04:28:12 PM
I don't think it's quite that high... the OW166 entry lists the Merlin as having a -19 refresh. And Ancient Mai is stated at -18. The notes for most of the Senior Council suggest Refresh levels higher than actually stated, but as far as I can tell the ones listed are supposed to have been stated from the books. Which makes me think the Merlin's listed -19 is what Harry sees, and he sees that as pretty damn strong.
Title: Re: Stress Boxes
Post by: Belial666 on August 30, 2010, 04:29:01 PM
He's about 25 refresh or so at the end. Spoilers ahead:

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Remember, the writeups of all the Senior Council are woefully understated. This also applies to most high-power guys. I mean, McCoy can obliterate one hundred targets in a single blow and he is the weakest of the Senior Council
Title: Re: Stress Boxes
Post by: TheMouse on August 30, 2010, 10:43:30 PM
Dude, you might want to put spoiler tags on there.
Title: Re: Stress Boxes
Post by: Todjaeger on August 31, 2010, 05:12:25 AM
Dude, you might want to put spoiler tags on there.

I agree, spoiler tags seem in order.  And with that in mind.

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Also, a [-2] Refresh cost for Lawbreaker, 1st Law after three or more occasions when magic was deliberately used to kill another mortal/human.  I don't recall when Harry would've used magic in that fashion.  Of why the Council wouldn't have given him a haircut.  At the neckline, given how (un)popular he is with some important members of the Council.
Title: Re: Stress Boxes
Post by: Belial666 on August 31, 2010, 07:50:54 AM
Remember his last human kill? That is what gave him the second level of Lawbreaker 1st. Spoilers ahead:

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Title: Re: Stress Boxes
Post by: Lanir on August 31, 2010, 12:48:48 PM
Remember his last human kill? That is what gave him the second level of Lawbreaker 1st. Spoilers ahead:

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The circumstances of the situation you mention don't hold up too well. Oh sure, Council haircut time maybe. But not the metaphysical part of the Law.

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Title: Re: Stress Boxes
Post by: wolff96 on August 31, 2010, 01:03:23 PM
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Yeah, I don't think that act would qualify him for Lawbreaker, either. 

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Title: Re: Stress Boxes
Post by: Todjaeger on September 01, 2010, 06:28:52 AM
Remember his last human kill? That is what gave him the second level of Lawbreaker 1st. Spoilers ahead:

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Spoiler:

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One quick suggestion though.  If we are going to do much more discussion of possible plot spoilers, perhaps we should move it to the Spoiler section.
Title: Re: Stress Boxes
Post by: vultur on September 01, 2010, 07:42:31 AM
I don't think
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Title: Re: Stress Boxes
Post by: Belial666 on September 01, 2010, 08:16:49 AM
I disagree;

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Title: Re: Stress Boxes
Post by: Holocron.Coder on September 02, 2010, 01:29:52 PM
As another note, Lawbreaker (1st) Rank 2 requires 4 occurrences of killing a mortal using/for magic. 1 for 1st Rank, and 3 more for 2nd Rank.

So, unless you can come up with 4 total, proven occurrences, he still only has [-1] Lawbreaker (1st)
Title: Re: Stress Boxes
Post by: Becq on September 03, 2010, 01:37:52 AM
Remember his last human kill? That is what gave him the second level of Lawbreaker 1st. Spoilers ahead:

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Title: Re: Stress Boxes
Post by: Wyrdrune on September 03, 2010, 06:38:39 AM
i agree with you, but...

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Title: Re: Stress Boxes
Post by: vultur on September 03, 2010, 09:17:26 PM
I disagree;

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Hmm. I read it that
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Title: Re: Stress Boxes
Post by: Becq on September 03, 2010, 09:26:58 PM
i agree with you, but...

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Yes, but my theory is that
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Title: Re: Stress Boxes
Post by: ralexs1991 on September 17, 2010, 07:59:52 PM
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this is me nodding and smiling i think this totally sounds reasonable and kudos if you're right
Title: Re: Stress Boxes
Post by: ralexs1991 on September 17, 2010, 08:02:59 PM
Remember his last human kill? That is what gave him the second level of Lawbreaker 1st. Spoilers ahead:

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well the way i see it is that Harry wasn't powering the spell Mab was and like you saud Harry used a knife so i think the puts him in the free and clear