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The Dresden Files => DFRPG => Topic started by: The Werewolf on April 22, 2010, 09:36:16 PM

Title: Catches
Post by: The Werewolf on April 22, 2010, 09:36:16 PM
what does someone think the catch for a native american shapeshifter be ?
Title: Re: Catches
Post by: iago on April 22, 2010, 09:37:25 PM
Vulnerable to weapons crafted out of human bone?
Title: Re: Catches
Post by: The Werewolf on April 22, 2010, 09:39:58 PM
i like it but i'm going for a +3 catch, but if it was just a little bit more detailed i think archmage_cowl will agree with it.
Title: Re: Catches
Post by: iago on April 22, 2010, 09:44:45 PM
i like it but i'm going for a +3 catch

Okay, let's review:

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* If your abilities only protect you against something specific, you get a +2 discount. If they protect you against everything except something specific, you get nothing.

* If the Catch is bypassed by something that anyone could reasonably get access to, but usually doesn’t carry on them (like cold iron), you get a +2. If it is bypassed by something only a rare class of people in the world have (like True Magic), you get a +1. If it is bypassed by something only one or two people in the world have access to or could produce (like a Sword of the Cross), you get nothing. Even the mere presence of the thing that satisfies your Catch will cause you discomfort (and may be grounds for a compel or something similar).

* If almost anyone with an awareness of the supernatural knows about the Catch or could easily find out (like from the Paranet, or Bram Stoker’s Dracula if you’re a Black Court vampire), you get a +2. If knowledge of the Catch requires access to specific research material that could be restricted (like a wizard’s library), you get a +1. If knowledge of the Catch requires knowing you personally to learn about it (like the effect of Judas’ Noose on Nicodemus), you get nothing.

I'm betting you want to be protected against everything except something specific, so zero for that.

To get a +3, we're looking for something bypassed by a rare thing for +1 but which anyone could easily find out about for +2; or something which is reasonably common for +2 but requires research to learn about.

Which of those two are you angling for?
Title: Re: Catches
Post by: The Werewolf on April 22, 2010, 09:46:34 PM
reasonably common and research required
Title: Re: Catches
Post by: The Werewolf on April 22, 2010, 09:54:10 PM
how would i put that on my character sheet?
Title: Re: Catches
Post by: JustinS on April 22, 2010, 10:09:14 PM
reasonably common and research required

If you are a multi-shifter:

Made out of any creature you have ever had the shape of. Human Bone counts from human form, add in whatever else you have shifted to...
Title: Re: Catches
Post by: Moriden on April 22, 2010, 10:09:42 PM
can you specify which flavor of native American? what might be most appropriate could be radically different. for example obsidian would make sense for some flavors of aztec, while whale bone would work for many inuits.
Title: Re: Catches
Post by: The Werewolf on April 23, 2010, 01:40:15 AM
Navajo. I figured it would be easier if my character had a few things in common with me.
Title: Re: Catches
Post by: Moriden on April 23, 2010, 02:29:00 AM
torquise.
Title: Re: Catches
Post by: The Werewolf on April 23, 2010, 10:30:48 AM
torquise bones?
Title: Re: Catches
Post by: KOFFEYKID on April 23, 2010, 10:57:41 AM
He means Turquoise, its a greenish blue gemstone used in indian jewelry.
Title: Re: Catches
Post by: Moriden on April 23, 2010, 06:19:51 PM
also its a sacred stone. believed to be extremely pure to many mid and east coast indian tribes. similarly to jade for the japanese.
Title: Re: Catches
Post by: The Werewolf on April 24, 2010, 02:47:13 AM
that would be an appropreite catch
Title: Re: Catches
Post by: Moriden on April 24, 2010, 02:51:02 AM
Your welcome :P
Title: Re: Catches
Post by: iago on April 24, 2010, 03:02:17 PM
I dig the turquoise idea (it comes in more colors than just the color that's named turquoise, doesn't it?) -- and I feel dumb for not thinking of it myself. Definitely reasonably common but requiring research...

... actually, after looking at Wikipedia -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turquoise -- I see the "red turquoise" that I'm used to thinking of is actually something called "argilite".  See? Research!
Title: Re: Catches
Post by: Moriden on April 24, 2010, 03:33:02 PM
of the top of my head it comes in various shades of blue/green, and i vaguely recall reading something about it being called blue or green torquise based on the difference. but my research into native American spirituality was nearly a decade ago so don't quote me.
Title: Re: Catches
Post by: The Werewolf on April 25, 2010, 07:21:01 AM
man these are some awesome ideas!
Title: Re: Catches
Post by: The Codex on April 25, 2010, 10:50:58 AM
Hi I also went down the path of a native ameican shape shifting werebear, we actaully ended up agreeing that as the form came from the spirit world that natrual weapons from the earths cretures would bypass mystical toughness. We decidieed that this would be a +2 as it requires a bit of research into xescovering this weakness