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The Dresden Files => DFRPG => Topic started by: SavageMage on April 22, 2010, 04:53:06 PM
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I was playing around with my character sheet last night when I noticed that the "Current Fate Points" circular section on the Character Sheet fits a Poker Chip almost perfectly, so it got me thinking. Has there been any thought to producing a custom DFRPG token similiar to the bennies that Pinnacle Entertainment does for its Deadlands and Savage Worlds games. There are a couple companies out there that produce high quality fully customizable chips for not too much. For instance: BR Pro Poker does some outstanding chips. I love their zombie line. :)
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I'm not sure if we'd sell enough to make a quantity purchase worthwhile. I'll see what I can figure out though.
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No worries ;D
Just thought I'd ask!
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I have the custom ones John Wick did for Houses of the Blooded. Why don't you set it up as a fundable project. I know I'd buy them and if they only have the fancy pentagram who knows who else might be interested Dresden or not...
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Great Idea. Sign me up!
I'll take at least thirty (five players... all fate point hogs) ;D
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How much would you pay for a stack of ten? A stack of thirty?
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I don't remember what I paid for John's but I remember them being pricey. He did a limited run and doesn't intend on doing it again. Got the feeling he wanted some and did it to find a way to make them pay for themselves... :D
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I'd say a fair price for 10 would be around $15-20, since custom chips range from about a $1.00/chip for small runs to nearly nothing for HUGE runs. Of course, this is all dependent upon what type of chip (Clay vs. ceramic, weight, etc.)
I think using a ten chip stack would probably be the best bet for orders. Anyone wanting more can order multiple stacks. I'd say this is pretty doable.
Another idea, if there was enough interest, you could use extras and place one in each of the preorders of the game as a surprise "Thank You" which could generate interest in them as well. This might not be feasible, but its fun to imagine... :)
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I don't remember what I paid for John's but I remember them being pricey. He did a limited run and doesn't intend on doing it again. Got the feeling he wanted some and did it to find a way to make them pay for themselves... :D
They cost $10 for a roll of 15 chips. I thought it was worth it but I'd like slightly lighter chips (the clay ones get heavy hauling around a bunch to demos).
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They cost $10 for a roll of 15 chips. I thought it was worth it but I'd like slightly lighter chips (the clay ones get heavy hauling around a bunch to demos).
See, and I'm a big fan of clay chips; I like heft.
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See, and I'm a big fan of clay chips; I like heft.
I'd buy them. I'd prob only use them at home though. Carrying HotB chips got a little heavy moving around at Cons.
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Is there a way to POD this? Do the t-shirt, coffee mug, etc companies sell anything like it?
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Just FYI this was the first link when I looked this up. http://www.worldpokersupplies.com/custom_poker_chips.htm Custom chips were as low as $125 for a set of 500 (and that came with an aluminum case). If you did this pre-order only you could do a single print run and maybe talk them down a bit. You'd prob only want one case at most to show these off for Con sales (if at all). At a quarter a piece even with a reasonable shipping and handling mark up it'd look like these could recoup.
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See, and I'm a big fan of clay chips; I like heft.
Now i just have the image of Fred beaning his players with fate chips during compels...
And yes i would spend $10-15 for a stack of dresden chips.
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Heck, I'd buy them just so I could fling them at my players during compels. ;)
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If you're keeping count to work out if its worth it - I'll buy about 30-40 of them.
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If you're keeping count to work out if its worth it - I'll buy about 30-40 of them.
Me too.
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You already got me for thirty, but hell, I'll go up to 50 if it makes this a reality :)
They would make for great table prizes as well.
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Heh. We'll see, we'll see.
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Whats the possibility of this happening? I'd get in on it for 30-40 chips.
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It's a good question. Can you ask it in August? My July is totally on fire!
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It's a good question. Can you ask it in August? My July is totally on fire!
Not a problem, I'll put it on my calendar.
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Looking into cost for these and am finding that for a decent clay chip the price is floating around 60 cents per chip plus shipping. Even with a 25% markup thats only 75 cents. I think $7.50 for a set of ten would be a fair price. Here is a link to one of the product I found:
http://www.pokerchiplounge.com/custom-gaming-products/custom-printed-poker-chips/custom-inlay-poker-chips/13-gram-6-stripe-clay-custom-poker-chips.html
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Looking into cost for these and am finding that for a decent clay chip the price is floating around 60 cents per chip plus shipping. Even with a 25% markup thats only 75 cents. I think $7.50 for a set of ten would be a fair price. Here is a link to one of the product I found:
http://www.pokerchiplounge.com/custom-gaming-products/custom-printed-poker-chips/custom-inlay-poker-chips/13-gram-6-stripe-clay-custom-poker-chips.html
If I wanted to sell this as a bonafide product rather than a "hey, let's coordinate a group effort" thing, the markup wouldn't be 25%, it'd be more like... 300%. Because if you sell a product into distribution, you're only going to get about 40% of it back, minus costs of shipping and assembly and construction. So what I'd need to find as a publisher is a way to get those chip costs down to about 10 or 15 cents per, if I wanted to put out a reasonably priced ten or more chip set in the $8 range.
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If I wanted to sell this as a bonafide product rather than a "hey, let's coordinate a group effort" thing, the markup wouldn't be 25%, it'd be more like... 300%. Because if you sell a product into distribution, you're only going to get about 40% of it back, minus costs of shipping and assembly and construction. So what I'd need to find as a publisher is a way to get those chip costs down to about 10 or 15 cents per, if I wanted to put out a reasonably priced ten or more chip set in the $8 range.
hurm... how many do you think as a publisher you would sell over the course of a year?
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hurm... how many do you think as a publisher you would sell over the course of a year?
Hard to say. It's the sort of thing that people can easily home-brew themselves.
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Hard to say. It's the sort of thing that people can easily home-brew themselves.
Would it be fair to say about 40% of your direct orders would be interested in these chips? If so how many would that be? .....
Never mind.. Don't answer that.. you said your busy.. I'll wait till August. :)
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Would it be fair to say about 40% of your direct orders would be interested in these chips? If so how many would that be? .....
I don't have a good idea of how much interest there is in an accessory product relative to the base product.
For *supplements*, for example, the conventional wisdom is that you'll sell around 25% the volume on a supplement as you did on the core product.
Accessory sales may be an even smaller percentage but with wider variance, so 40% sounds really high to me.
Direct orders were around 1600, with total sales volume so far in the mid-4000's (including those 1600).
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I'd gladly invest money in this
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I can't find any right now, but aren't there collaborative buying websites where you can pay a set amount of money in and, if everyone does it and the total is reached then the money is spent on the target but if there isn't enough money then it's all returned?
I know they exist as I've seen them used to fund a variety of grassroots projects, allowing people to donate money to something and know that it will happen.
Aha, I knew I'd find one. Something like this - http://www.kickstarter.com/ (http://www.kickstarter.com/) is what I had in mind. It's 'All or Nothing' funding, so you only pay your share when the tokens are going to be made. Perhaps Evil Hat games could set it up, design the token at a reasonable price i.e. some mark-up but not 300% as there is no risk, just enough to cover postage. Then just set a price per 10 tokens and everyone who donates gets tokens equal to their donation.
Of course if there aren't enough contributors then no one gets charged, no one gets tokens and Evil Hat has done everything it could for their fan base. Alternatively, it could be arranged by one of you instead but everyone trusts Evil Hat and I'm sure they're in a better position to post tokens out to people.
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I am in for thirty to forty chips, hell, maybe i should buy enough that i can play actual poker with them
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It's a good question. Can you ask it in August? My July is totally on fire!
<whistles>
So....
<looks at calendar>
Looks like August is upon us....
<whistles>
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Chances aren't great, yet. It's on my radar, but honestly just not a high priority given everything else I'm managing right now.
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Chances aren't great, yet. It's on my radar, but honestly just not a high priority given everything else I'm managing right now.
Not a problem... Shall I continue to give you monthly reminders? Or shall I just let it go for now? :)
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Not a problem... Shall I continue to give you monthly reminders? Or shall I just let it go for now? :)
Up to you, man. ;)
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Hard to say. It's the sort of thing that people can easily home-brew themselves.
Not to be a jerk in this line, but I have to tell you. I love home made items. And, with that being said craft stores have wooden tokens you can either woodburn and stain for a nice rustic look or you can always hodgepodge whatever image you want onto a chip. For those diy guys out there I thought I would drop this piece of info in your laps. However I have to say that the chip idea is awesome and I might pick some up anyway.
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I would get 50 if they were made, easily.
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If there were some kind of shipping options that allows me to not have to pay duties and taxes here in Denmark on stuff ordered from the US I'd so go for it :)