ParanetOnline

The Site => Site Suggestions & Support => Topic started by: Curly on November 10, 2009, 08:48:37 PM

Title: The Spoilers Section - The Poll
Post by: Curly on November 10, 2009, 08:48:37 PM
This is slightly in response to:
Quote from: Iago,lord-of-all-you-see-here
The very small minority could be the two or three vocal people who are dominating a discussion thread with disproportionately excessive posting.  No guarantee it ain't you who's wanting the special treatment, in other words.

SO, One poster, One vote. Do you think there's a problem?
Title: Re: The Spoilers Section - The Poll
Post by: iago on November 10, 2009, 08:55:12 PM
That's a hell of a dichotomy you've laid out there. What of folks who think it's neither? :)
Title: Re: The Spoilers Section - The Poll
Post by: laura118b on November 10, 2009, 09:01:05 PM
Yeah, you might want to edit the choices.  Instead of yes no I'd try civil not civil.  Maybe a third, There's a problem but it's not listed here as a choice.  I've got an opinion on that, but it's not very constructive so I won't go there....
Title: Re: The Spoilers Section - The Poll
Post by: El Diablo on November 10, 2009, 09:15:55 PM
If you answer yes or no, the way the sentence is laid out, it could mean Yes to both, or no to both - So I'll wait till that's sorted...
Title: Re: The Spoilers Section - The Poll
Post by: Lash Dresden on November 10, 2009, 09:17:32 PM
This^
Title: Re: The Spoilers Section - The Poll
Post by: Landing on November 10, 2009, 09:33:29 PM
Reminds me of some conversations I have had before.

"Are you ready to go or do you need a few more minutes?"

"Yes"

"Yes you are ready to go or yes you need a few more minutes?"

"Yes"

 :-\
Title: Re: The Spoilers Section - The Poll
Post by: Lash Dresden on November 10, 2009, 09:37:58 PM
Or there's always this oldie:

Attorney A:  Please answer the question with either yes or no.

Attorney B:  Objection, the question is not answerable by a simple yes or no.

Attorney A:  Any question can be answered with a simple yes or no!

Attorney B:  Really?  Have you stopped beating your wife yet?

Attorney A:  *chokes*
Title: Re: The Spoilers Section - The Poll
Post by: Heretic on November 10, 2009, 09:53:31 PM
If you answer yes or no, the way the sentence is laid out, it could mean Yes to both, or no to both - So I'll wait till that's sorted...

Me too.
Title: Re: The Spoilers Section - The Poll
Post by: anwan7 on November 10, 2009, 10:00:07 PM
I voted "yes" - meaning the board is usually civil.
Title: Re: The Spoilers Section - The Poll
Post by: Landing on November 10, 2009, 10:04:32 PM
May I suggest that when you fix the poll you clear it as well, in case some people that voted were confused? Also the questions seems to be pretty loaded, you may wish to work on some more objective options. I am sure there are some people that may find the spoiler section to be uncivil but don't find it to be "equivalent to Jerry Springer".

thanks

edit *and I'm sure if you are having trouble with thinking up other options people on here would be willing to help you*
Title: Re: The Spoilers Section - The Poll
Post by: Aine on November 10, 2009, 10:47:19 PM
Plus, the poll itself is rather untenable.

As Katty said, many people who find the board to be an unpleasant place would never sign up, stop posting and disappear, or delete their accounts.  It would make sense that the people who've stuck around enjoy the atmosphere there.  Not many people would stand up in a place they are going to be attacked and try to change it. 

Title: Re: The Spoilers Section - The Poll
Post by: Lash Dresden on November 10, 2009, 10:51:48 PM
Or they just love the books enough to stick around the forums and know which threads/posters to avoid.
Title: Re: The Spoilers Section - The Poll
Post by: Aine on November 10, 2009, 10:58:04 PM
Or they just love the books enough to stick around the forums and know which threads/posters to avoid.

After a while, yes.  You are absolutely right.  Though I honestly wonder how many people stick around long enough to figure it out. 

Title: Re: The Spoilers Section - The Poll
Post by: El Diablo on November 10, 2009, 11:20:46 PM
Or they learn that some sections are closed off to them because any opinion might be "challenged" in ways they might not be comfortable with. Some folks (me included) need an "off button" or a "water Spray" to the face occasionally.

So for me at least - spoilers is off limits.
Title: Re: The Spoilers Section - The Poll
Post by: Chiroptera on November 10, 2009, 11:35:43 PM
I don't have any real problems with the Spoilers section myself.  A few threads get out of hand or become difficult to post in but it doesn't happen terribly often, and in those cases I just wait for them to cool down and go elsewhere for awhile.  And it's really the only way I have to discuss the books at all.  (I have a couple friends who read them but aren't really the book discussion type).
Title: Re: The Spoilers Section - The Poll
Post by: Shecky on November 11, 2009, 02:59:38 AM
This is slightly in response to:
SO, One poster, One vote. Do you think there's a problem?

No. Lord Vetinary is that one poster, and he gets the one vote.

*edit* GRR. Vetinari, Shecky. Just because you immediately started thinking back to when his fellow assassin-candidates referred to him as Dog-Botherer does not entitle you to mesh the two in spelling.
Title: Re: The Spoilers Section - The Poll
Post by: El Diablo on November 11, 2009, 03:41:57 AM
cip
Title: Re: The Spoilers Section - The Poll
Post by: Curly on November 16, 2009, 09:54:34 PM
That's a hell of a dichotomy you've laid out there. What of folks who think it's neither? :)
My parents told me not to talk back to things that have power over me. :'(

The answers are exaggerations but they mean "Do you think the Spoilers Section is sufficiently polite or not."

If you answer yes or no, the way the sentence is laid out, it could mean Yes to both, or no to both - So I'll wait till that's sorted...

Yep, I was having one of those days where I just assume a respective syntax is clear, excuse me.

Didn't mean to leave the thread alone so long. Blame Mickey. I've made the responses more clear and added a "meh" response. I believe I made the poll so that anyone would be able to change their response at any time.

Unless a lot of people misunderstood my sleep-distorted poll it would seem that people find Spoilers to be reasonably civil. :)
Title: Re: The Spoilers Section - The Poll
Post by: Landing on November 16, 2009, 11:13:31 PM
My parents told me not to talk back to things that have power over me. :'(

The answers are exaggerations but they mean "Do you think the Spoilers Section is sufficiently polite or not."
 
Yep, I was having one of those days where I just assume a respective syntax is clear, excuse me.

Didn't mean to leave the thread alone so long. Blame Mickey. I've made the responses more clear and added a "meh" response. I believe I made the poll so that anyone would be able to change their response at any time.

Unless a lot of people misunderstood my sleep-distorted poll it would seem that people find Spoilers to be reasonably civil. :)


All of those votes were put in before you fixed your poll, the yes votes could just a easily been for "yes its just like Jarry". Since most people aren’t likely to go back to a poll they already voted in and see if it has changed or not, don’t you think it is only fair that you reset it so it is accurate?

Even with a "meh" option your question is still pretty loaded. One option, the one you have indicated you favor, being very moderate and inclusive of multiple views on the matter, and the other one as total extreme option. A good guide to if the poll is loaded is to flip the options and see if it still seems fair.

"Do you think the Spoilers section is generally rather uncivil or the Board's equivalent to Utopia?

See what I mean?
Title: Re: The Spoilers Section - The Poll
Post by: Curly on November 17, 2009, 02:12:18 PM

All of those votes were put in before you fixed your poll, the yes votes could just a easily been for "yes its just like Jarry". Since most people aren’t likely to go back to a poll they already voted in and see if it has changed or not, don’t you think it is only fair that you reset it so it is accurate?
Fair enough :)I hope people come back and vote.

Even with a "meh" option your question is still pretty loaded. One option, the one you have indicated you favor, being very moderate and inclusive of multiple views on the matter, and the other one as total extreme option. A good guide to if the poll is loaded is to flip the options and see if it still seems fair.
I didn't intentionally indicate which one I prefer, Is there a way to poll two questions at a time?


To begin with, I was just going to suggest that someone make a poll. I guess it's true "If you want something done right, don't do it yourself, you don't know how to do it, that's why you don't do this for a living"

I ask anyone that knows polls to make a better, fairer one to replace this awful sham of a poll.  ;D I'd just like to see what most people think rather than how much a few people can type.