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"Not having it could have gotten me killed, too," I said.  "And then you'd have wasted all that time you've put in trying to recruit me to be the next Winter Knight."

"Nonsense," Mab said.  "If you died, I would simply recruit your brother.  He would be well motivated to seek revenge upon your killers."
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That's a direct statement on Mab's part.  Not an implication, or a suggestion, or a hint, it's a direct declarative statement.  Either she means it...or she uttered a falsehood, which as far as know she simply can't.

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  "He isn't mortal," I said quietly. "I thought Knights had to be mortals,""He is in love," Grimalkin mrowled for Mab.  "That makes him mortal enough for me." She tilted her head.  Though I suppose I might make him an offer, while you yet live.  He would give much to hold his love again, would he not?"

You are correct that was a declarative statement by Mab.  However as you can see when Harry says Knights have to be mortal.  Mab hedges her bets, because Thomas is in love, that makes him mortal enough for her.  Then Mab hints that a bargain that could be made with Thomas so he could hold Justine.  This fogs up what the truth is just a bit, while Mab isn't exactly lying to Harry, she isn't exactly telling the truth either.. Though by her standards she is telling the truth, yes, she could recruit Thomas to be her Knight, that isn't the same as make Thomas her Knight.. However just the suggestion that she would recruit Thomas, puts pressure on Harry to become her Knight. Which is what Mab is really after.
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You are correct that was a declarative statement by Mab.  However as you can see when Harry says Knights have to be mortal.  Mab hedges her bets, because Thomas is in love, that makes him mortal enough for her.  Then Mab hints that a bargain that could be made with Thomas so he could hold Justine.  This fogs up what the truth is just a bit, while Mab isn't exactly lying to Harry, she isn't exactly telling the truth either.. Though by her standards she is telling the truth, yes, she could recruit Thomas to be her Knight, that isn't the same as make Thomas her Knight.. However just the suggestion that she would recruit Thomas, puts pressure on Harry to become her Knight. Which is what Mab is really after.
That first declarative by Mab, however, would seem absolute:  even if  she later gave ambivalent wiggle-room replies, Mab has stated affirmatively that she would recruit Thomas.

Mab can be wrong -- mistaken -- but she cannot lie.

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That first declarative by Mab, however, would seem absolute:  even if  she later gave ambivalent wiggle-room replies, Mab has stated affirmatively that she would recruit Thomas.

Mab can be wrong -- mistaken -- but she cannot lie.

  Recruit isn't the same as making Thomas her Knight.  No, she isn't lying about trying to recruit him, but she can recruit all she wants knowing full well it cannot happen.. Is she lying? No.  However she also knows the kind of effect at statement would have on Harry..  That's why one shouldn't bargain with the Fae, Mab in particular.  She is yanking Harry's chain by using the word recruit, she can say that and not lie.. Her aim is to get Harry as her Knight, not Thomas.  In fact I doubt Mab is even interested in Thomas as her Knight, even if it were possible. but she wants Harry to think she is..