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Re: Twelve Months - What our you expecting from it?
« Reply #30 on: October 29, 2024, 10:32:11 AM »
I think that 12 months will start Halloween night and end on haloween night. I think that it is about harry and molly getting rid of the winter mantels.
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Re: Twelve Months - What our you expecting from it?
« Reply #31 on: October 30, 2024, 11:36:17 PM »
That's a question that's bothered me for a while.  Because the Librarians are supposed to be highly secretive, and particularly cautious of Harry in part because he publicly advertises, and also because of his propensity for destruction.  I recall a WoJ that the main reason the Librarians never reached out to Karrin was that she was considered suspicious for being a known associate of the wizard.

The feds in the Dog Men comic weren't exactly enthusiastic to cooperate with Harry, but they weren't super shy of letting him know they were aware of the supernatural in general and specifically of him, either.  It's been a while since I read that one, but I don't think they came across as being as impressively prepared / capable as I'd have expected from the Librarians, either.

So are there two branches of clued feds?  The Librarians in the background being super cautious, and the more goonish branch doing more open field work?  Either independently, or directed from the shadows by the Librarians, as pawns that known just enough to do their missions, but not enough to compromise the Librarians if something happens to them?

I wouldn't be surprised if they try to get Tilly working for them, but probably not trusted at too high a level, as making their Chicago presence someone who more or less already trusted Harry would make it a bit too easy for him.

Jim wrote the outlines for the various Dresden comic books, but another writer filled in the details.  There were times when the main characters in one or two of the comic books felt off to me, so I could see the Dog Men comic book totally missing how Jim wants the Librarians to be portrayed going forward.
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Re: Twelve Months - What our you expecting from it?
« Reply #32 on: October 31, 2024, 02:52:42 PM »
I think that 12 months will start Halloween night and end on haloween night. I think that it is about harry and molly getting rid of the winter mantels.
I don't think so. They need to be with Winter, because them leaving now would weaken the whole court and with it the defense of the Outer Gates.

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Re: Twelve Months - What our you expecting from it?
« Reply #33 on: Yesterday at 07:03:38 PM »
  A book.  That is what I expect. 

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Re: Twelve Months - What our you expecting from it?
« Reply #34 on: Yesterday at 08:47:40 PM »
... I think that it is about harry and molly getting rid of the winter mantels.
I don't think so, no; for several reasons.
1/ Jim has stated that 12M will be several other things -- it'll be Chicago-centric, Harry building bonds & community (very-possibly with little-Maggie elements, e.g. education, friends/playmates, ets... maybe even concerns from Illinois' "Children & Family Services") -- it'll be about Harry's grief & trauma, losing Susan (& everything else he lost in Changes), the psychic assaults over the years, and so on:  grieving-Harry, ptsd-Harry, stressed-parent-Harry, etc... it'll be about Harry/Lara and the WinterKnight/WhitePrincess "courtship" as they squirm on Mab's hook attempting to not-disobey-Mab (but also not have a Winter-shotgun wedding).
1a/ I still think that Mab's primary objective (in ordering the marriage) is to throw her Starborn-Wizard-WinterKnight into the Whampire Court (where Papa Raith had Outsider-summoning rituals for his porn-starlet-sorceresses to use, his own personal Outsider-fueled antimagic wards, and where (it seems) Justine got Nemfected; and let us not forget Vitto Malvora's Outsider magic) -- the Whampires look to be absolutely riddled with Outsider influence, and I think she expects Harry to improve that situation.
2/ Part of Harry's whole arc is a suite of power-ups to be a viable player in the BAT.  The  WK-mantle is a big one.  I think he'll keep it 'til the end.  Harry has no way to play in the BAT leagues without the WKmantle or similar.
3/ Keeping both Harry&Molly subject to their mantles keeps the Harry/Molly sexual-torment available as an element for Jim to include.  No narrative tension, of course, as they can't follow through... unless some sort of Whamp-y / etc element makes one or both lose control; the risk of that would be its own "narrative tension" (but I don't think Jim wants to play in such a rapey playground).  Jim's a creative boy, though, and it's still a character-tormenting element, so I don't rule something in this arena out of the picture.
4/ Kringle hinted to Harry (in Cold Days) that "masks" (by which we can reasonably infer "mantles") can be put on & taken off.  I think we'll see a LOT of that in "Fight Night" which apparently has a bunch of godlings & former-gods feeding their adulation-fixation as pro wrestlers... the whole "masks" thing is HUGE in pro wrestling
5/ There are so many deep & unresolved Winter connections to explore, and the WK-mantle keeps Harry locked into them (among other things, I'm hoping/expecting Mother Winter (at some point, not in 12M) to order her Winter Knight to "Fetch me my walking-stick, boy!" (I do not believe Harry yet realizes this is the Blackstaff artifact).
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Re: Twelve Months - What our you expecting from it?
« Reply #35 on: Yesterday at 10:21:36 PM »
I know it is not 12 months related, but I think the pro wrestling book might be as much about pro wrestling as ghost story was about a PI who got in jail with the people he had sent there.