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Harry is a Dad...Again..😳
« on: April 10, 2024, 01:07:19 AM »
I think Harry and Lara do marry ...do the wild thing honeymoon...and Lara conceives...just a afterthought twist... besides Maggie needs to be a big sister. 😳😜👍

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« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2024, 09:52:51 AM »
I think Harry and Lara do marry ...do the wild thing honeymoon...and Lara conceives...just a afterthought twist... besides Maggie needs to be a big sister. 😳😜👍

She already is..

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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2024, 10:58:06 AM »
I don't think there will be another child. Not with Lara. I kind of hope, he won't marry her, but I admit, if he does, it would definitely make his life even more interesting.
I kind of hope that Murphy will upgrade in Valhalla and come back as a valkyrie during the next 2 or 3 books after 12 Months. Because of how he always saw her with his Sight.

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« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2024, 01:48:23 PM »
I think Harry and Lara do marry ...do the wild thing honeymoon...and Lara conceives...just a afterthought twist... besides Maggie needs to be a big sister. 😳😜👍

I think it's unlikely, that's what Thomas' baby will be used for. That'll be the tension between them. If they get married, which is probable, IMO (just so Murph can return and get that funny surprise, lol).

Maggie already is a big sister (sorta). And I hope Jim at least starts writing both Maggie and Bonnie is a way that makes sense before throwing another character with no personality into the story.

Besides, Harry wouldn't want another child, and certainly not like this. I don't think it matters if Mab demands it, he'll find a way around it, it's just too much to ask from him at this point.

Personally, I still doubt anything physical could happen with Lara, there's still the protection from Murphy, and while it's not clear how it works now that she's dead or the influence the wedding could have on it, it just seems kind of silly to establish the protection in one book, just when Harry is going to need it the most being in the White Court, for it to just be swept away by a wedding vow that is going to be, probably, very carefully worded by lawyers, not by feelings/intentions.

I don't think there will be another child. Not with Lara. I kind of hope, he won't marry her, but I admit, if he does, it would definitely make his life even more interesting.
I kind of hope that Murphy will upgrade in Valhalla and come back as a valkyrie during the next 2 or 3 books after 12 Months. Because of how he always saw her with his Sight.

I think there's a fair chance for that. 1. If we're to believe the insinuation that Gard makes in Aftermath, Valkyrie is a state/position that can be obtained, and we all know how Murphy is, she climbed up the ladder pretty fast in her old job, she would at least try to do it in the afterlife as well, if it's remotely possible. 2. Harry is slowly being surrounded by weapons/attributes/allies that he will need for whatever final battle he has to fight, it wouldn't surprise me that what happened to Murph was a strategic play to put her (even if only to play with the myth of it) in place to be the Valkyrie that favors him and accompany him to victory.
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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2024, 04:01:43 PM »
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I think there's a fair chance for that. 1. If we're to believe the insinuation that Gard makes in Aftermath, Valkyrie is a state/position that can be obtained, and we all know how Murphy is, she climbed up the ladder pretty fast in her old job, she would at least try to do it in the afterlife as well, if it's remotely possible. 2. Harry is slowly being surrounded by weapons/attributes/allies that he will need for whatever final battle he has to fight, it wouldn't surprise me that what happened to Murph was a strategic play to put her (even if only to play with the myth of it) in place to be the Valkyrie that favors him and accompany him to victory.

I think you are mistaken, Valkyrie isn't a state/position that can be obtained.. Though Jim might make it one.

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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2024, 03:47:35 PM »
I think Harry and Lara do marry ...do the wild thing honeymoon...and Lara conceives...just a afterthought twist... besides Maggie needs to be a big sister. 😳😜👍

WoJ is that there are no more plot-twist-new-family-member elements planned.

I don't think Harry & Lara can get together... WK+Whampire is a pairing of sex-mojo's that's very unstable!

WK-Mantle would almost-certainly try to kill the Whampire trying to control it, who would likely need to kill the WK if she was to survive.

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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2024, 02:41:22 AM »
I don't think there will be another child. Not with Lara. I kind of hope, he won't marry her, but I admit, if he does, it would definitely make his life even more interesting.
I kind of hope that Murphy will upgrade in Valhalla and come back as a valkyrie during the next 2 or 3 books after 12 Months. Because of how he always saw her with his Sight.

Unless Vaderrung makes an exception, I doubt it. I think Valkyries need to be alive to be "hired". That said, we haven't seen the last of Murphy.

Side note: Jim better give us a fitting death for Rufus... like a passing mention that he slipped in the bathtub and broke his neck. Every time I re read or listen to Fool Moon I am like "let that a**hole die, Harry!"

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« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2024, 02:57:48 PM »
I think Harry and Lara do marry ...do the wild thing honeymoon...and Lara conceives...just a afterthought twist... besides Maggie needs to be a big sister. 😳😜👍
Mab's comment on the establishment of the lasting alliance between Winter and The White Court stated that there should be an issue, a "blending of bloodlines". That means a kid.
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« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2024, 08:43:01 PM »
Mab's comment on the establishment of the lasting alliance between Winter and The White Court stated that there should be an issue, a "blending of bloodlines". That means a kid.

  Yeah, but until it happens it is more of a hope..

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« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2024, 02:35:59 PM »
Mab's comment on the establishment of the lasting alliance between Winter and The White Court stated that there should be an issue, a "blending of bloodlines". That means a kid.

I think Mab -- as per her usual MO -- has set herself up in a win-win situation.

If the marriage goes off, then she's got deep tentacles of power into the Whampire Court (and possibly an heir on the way (but it seems dubious; I'm sure Summer-fertility could overcome whampire infertility issues... Winter notsomuch... ).

If Harry wiggles out, she's got a more-political, more-competent Knight.
 

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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2024, 02:56:39 AM »
I think is possible that Harry and Lara married, but nothing physical between them, as Harry is protected and will hold to that protection for the memory of Murphy.
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« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2024, 04:35:40 AM »
I think is possible that Harry and Lara married, but nothing physical between them, as Harry is protected and will hold to that protection for the memory of Murphy.

I agree. 

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« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2024, 08:40:10 PM »
I think is possible that Harry and Lara married, but nothing physical between them, as Harry is protected and will hold to that protection for the memory of Murphy.
I find that logistically dubious; let me explain...
  • Justine broke the whamp protection via "friendly but not meaningful" sex.
  • I'm pretty sure a Winter-Law-valid command from Mab would be, "go have not-meaningful sex with the woman of your choice, so you can fulfill your marital obligations."
  • And the WK-Mantle would largely obligate Harry to do so.
I don't think Jim would write this, but I think the Dresdenverse is pretty clear how that'd all work; so I think Harry's going to wiggle out of the marriage some other way.

My current WAG is that he doesn't find a way to wiggle out... but an attempt to murder him gives him the out he needs:  mirror!Harry kidnaps our Harry on his wedding-day.



Then -- having publicly jilted Lara at the altar, and publicly disobeyed Mab's command -- Harry returns to his own universe a day or two later.

He'll ... uh ... have some 'splainin to do.  It's not the sort of thing either Lara or Mab is likely to forgive.
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« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2024, 11:13:42 PM »
I find that logistically dubious; let me explain...
  • Justine broke the whamp protection via "friendly but not meaningful" sex.
  • I'm pretty sure a Winter-Law-valid command from Mab would be, "go have not-meaningful sex with the woman of your choice, so you can fulfill your marital obligations."
  • And the WK-Mantle would largely obligate Harry to do so.
I do not think that is possible. Changes, Ghost Story and Cold Days are the books I reread the less, so I may be misremembering, but I think Harry made a clause that Mab cannot just ordering him around. No puppeteer. And for Murphy Harry will have the will power to resist the mantle or whatever. Marrying someone for political reasons can be argued as a part of the WK obligations, but I do not think that includes being raped. And being forced to have sex unwillingly is rape. Also, if Mab forced him to do something like that, Harry would be rebellious all the way, useless to her.

But even more important, I think Mab is not aware of the protection. Once (if) she realizes that is the case, she won't force Harry to break it. She has shown respect for Murphy and for Harry's feelings about her.

And yes, your scenario for Harry evading the wedding is quite probable.
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