Thomas hoped Marcone would Kill Lara?

[SerScot]

In the discussion on the WB on their way to Demonreach Harry mentions that he hoped Lara would kill Marcone.  Thomas mentioned that he hoped for the opposite.  That was a bit surprising. 

I thought there was genuine love between Lara and Thomas… or… is that simply not possible for White Court Vampires.

[Mira]

In the discussion on the WB on their way to Demonreach Harry mentions that he hoped Lara would kill Marcone.  Thomas mentioned that he hoped for the opposite.  That was a bit surprising. 

I thought there was genuine love between Lara and Thomas… or… is that simply not possible for White Court Vampires.

Page number, chapter, book, please, I don't remember that and need context.

[SerScot]

Page number, chapter, book, please, I don't remember that and need context.

I was listening to the audio book.  Please give me a moment.

[SerScot]

Page number, chapter, book, please, I don't remember that and need context.

Cold Days Chapter 19, pg. 185 hard cover edition, bottom middle of the page:

”I was sort of hoping she’d kill him,” I said. (Harry) “I was sort of hoping for the other way around,” Thomas said.

[b4utoo]

I think it was just shit talking

[Mira]

Thanks I will look it up.  However when you think about it, it makes some sense that he'd say that.   Lara was happy in a weird way after Shaggy got done with Thomas, because he became more coldly vampire like she was.  Remember how he was at the end of Turn Coat, but then Jim never did anything more with that.

[b4utoo]

Because of the vampire White Court they need to eat. And Thomas wasn't eating. He was the equivalent of starving. Nobody wants to see their sibling starve themselves.

[Mira]

Because of the vampire White Court they need to eat. And Thomas wasn't eating. He was the equivalent of starving. Nobody wants to see their sibling starve themselves.

No, he wasn't, his hair business had taken care of that.. Also it wasn't that so much as how he began to look at humans, they became "kine" not people to him.  That latter was Lara's big lesson.

[Snark Knight]

Thanks I will look it up.  However when you think about it, it makes some sense that he'd say that.   Lara was happy in a weird way after Shaggy got done with Thomas, because he became more coldly vampire like she was.  Remember how he was at the end of Turn Coat, but then Jim never did anything more with that.

Plus Thomas wasn't ever particularly happy about Justine being Lara's secretary. The job was putting her in danger fairly regularly, and there was more than an undertone of Lara keeping her as a hostage against Thomas' good behaviour, no matter that she seems to have been materially well treated.

I'm not sure he was all the way sincere about wishing his sister dead either, but he has ample reasons for a ... nuanced ... attitude towards her.

[vincentric]

It's also quite possible that Lara feels more for Thomas than Thomas for Lara.

[forumghost]

I think it's to do with the fact that Thomas thought Lara has gotten "real scary" in the last couple of years.

So even if she's big sis, she's becoming that big of a problem/threat.

[morriswalters]

Lara was using Justine to make sure that Thomas toed the line. With Harry it's Marcone becoming more of a threat. They were, in part, responsible for increasing the power of their respective irritants. This seems like a wistful look at the choices they made that got them there.

[groinkick]

I think Thomas does probably love Lara.  If he truly wanted her dead, he'd have tried.  I think it's more that he knows how dangerous she is, and her motivations.  So on some level he loves her, but also knows that Justine, and Harry are in danger from her, and if he got in the way, she'd get rid of him too.

[Mira]

I think Thomas does probably love Lara.  If he truly wanted her dead, he'd have tried.  I think it's more that he knows how dangerous she is, and her motivations.  So on some level he loves her, but also knows that Justine, and Harry are in danger from her, and if he got in the way, she'd get rid of him too.

My take away still is that I am disappointed that Jim didn't do more with the Thomas we saw at the end of Turn Coat.  There were real questions after the meeting in the zoo between him and Harry, whether or not Thomas could regain his humanity and or how Harry was going to deal with that. That could have been really interesting, but the next time we see Thomas it was like his sessions with Shaggy never happened.

[SerScot]

My take away still is that I am disappointed that Jim didn't do more with the Thomas we saw at the end of Turn Coat.  There were real questions after the meeting in the zoo between him and Harry, whether or not Thomas could regain his humanity and or how Harry was going to deal with that. That could have been really interesting, but the next time we see Thomas it was like his sessions with Shaggy never happened.

This.  If the author introduces a moral quandary for a character don’t forget you did so three books later.