Calling Harry the Antichrist is a very deep dive into Christian Theology.
I mean, it's Harry's words. I am just noting that it's interesting he calls himself a possible Antichrist combined with all the other connections Harry has with Hell and the Dark Prince.
Considering the deep dive - I am going to make a separate thread for it.
indeed, early in the DF Jim hadn't drawn the line between outsiders and demons clearly, hadn't decided yet. I think that's because they are partially the same thing, demons just exist inside taking up that general space in reality, but have very specific things that operate close to outsiders we've seen, feeding off of fear and pain and generally existing in a negative wave length. The way they exist and manifest inside being one too, having no actual physical body, they are just manifestations of willpower.
possibly.. but I don't think they're connected to them going mad, might be trying to eat enough to become more significant creatures though? I think that might have to do with how power bases form, you bring in things that resonate with your power about yourself like an extended aura and some figure out they can grasp that aura and wield it. Thinking wiccan or Buddhist alter type beginnings.
can't see things that stand behind you though? Harry's darker nature matches up to how hwwbh feels mentally I think, I've always assumed some connection there, if not from some starborn aspect then from him marking him. Harry going after Rudy was an almost total manifestation to me, and why I think the knights had agency to intervene. Something wasn't right.
just no comment to be made
I didn't know there were agnostic theories for the DF?
I think Lucifer was just another incarnation of the Archetype and a 666 starborn to boot. The original reasoning was a Woj referencing beings two millennia old being in the know for what coming, time running short and all that. Even now it seems what's happening is bigger than just the one starborn event. Reality restructuring or the guardians changing doesn't seem to happen every time, but part of a bigger cycle. As far as Harry being the rough beast slouching towards belthehem, absolutely. Think I've even identified the origins of the slouching, demon reaches uneven gait. If Harry can find means to where it as a mantle.. yea, he'd have the right slouch.
1. Well all demons are alike in a sense. Initially just described as beasts from the Never never - spirit beings that are hostile to mortals but not necessarily evil. I think that got retconned a bit though. Outsiders of course we know now are a completely different kind of being and openly want to destroy and devour reality. But I suppose what I am getting at is that I think this was a set up for Harry's star born nature. He resists where others might struggle. I could be reading too much into this of course.
2. Well, that's a possible reason the White Council might worry about dark magic. If these beings eat enough dark magic do they become demons (or bigger demons)?
3. Ah, but if you read Storm Front carefully you will notice that the Sight is more than merely run through the context of his eyes - it encompasses smell, sound, and quite probably touch. I wonder if he hadn't had the Sight activated would he have even felt that hand? So it doesn't matter particularly that he couldn't see what was behind him as such. I agree that Harry being marked by HWWBh did something - it's a shame we don't know more about it. I don't quite follow what you mean about "a total manifestation"...do you mean Harry's darker nature (that is possibly connected to Behind) took over a bit?
To be honest, I read that particular bit as more to with Harry's possible Hell-tainted nature. Hence why the Knights were there. That's more their purpose.
4. Ah, all good.
6. Not
agnostic. Just gnostic. As in Gnosticism. Serack used it to build his GUCMT if you ever saw that. It's in the Reference boards. Anyway, Gnosticism basically posits that God isn't in-fact the Creator of Everything but merely a rogue Aeon, an offshoot of the real Creator. The being we normally call God is the creator only of the physical world and the Creator of Everything resides in a higher dimension, which in order to reach you have to shed physical attachment essentially (because the physical world is impure). That's a fairly basic, lazy, and probably not all that correct explanation for it. It's worth a read at least on Wikipedia.
Anyway, now I am not sure what you mean about "an incarnation of the Archetype" unless you mean in a Michael Moorcock sense or perhaps an Incarnations of Immortality (the book series by Piers Anthony) sense? Could you elaborate more on this?
I agree that what is coming is bigger than the normal event that follows the star born being made (remember the star born being made is only one event that precedes another event - both events make up an iteration of the Cycle or the Game). But I agree, things are coming to a head in a big way more than normal. Personally, I think the potential is there for a changing of the guard and resetting the playing field each iteration, but this time has been predicted to be the big one.
That's an interesting comparison with Demonreach and the slouching beast. I'd say it's a bit literal, but it could perhaps be a slight nod. I think the slouching that Yeats was talking about was about describing the implacable nature of the beast, it's a bit lazy like a lion but that's because it's saving it's energy for the kill. And it's about to be born, it's about to "wake up".
