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Re: Lara Raith killed Malcolm Dresden
« Reply #45 on: January 05, 2021, 03:24:55 AM »
Why are taking Cause of death as fact? Lara raith could have made the coroner write that aneurysm cause of death. Which would be the simplest explanation instead of debating you're all non medical opinions
Because why would Lara do so?
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Re: Lara Raith killed Malcolm Dresden
« Reply #46 on: January 05, 2021, 04:53:10 PM »
Lord Faith could of used her as "Cats paws" etc

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« Reply #47 on: January 05, 2021, 05:33:09 PM »
Lord Faith could of used her as "Cats paws" etc
Surebut that is not the question. Why would she make it look like an an aneurysm? Justin ha a clear motive for doing so but Lara seems to be content with the usual symptoms of a white court dead.

Faking a natural dead points to Justin.
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Re: Lara Raith killed Malcolm Dresden
« Reply #48 on: January 08, 2021, 06:55:12 AM »


Not Lara, though. Too high connections. Someone lower in the hierarchy - why use a princess when a commoner can do the job... and is more easily vanished later if need be?



Because it's a character Harry knows. Makes him feel betrayed.

Harry was six when Malcolm died. He didn't meet Lara until the porno movie shoot. They didn't know he'd ever meet her then.

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Re: Lara Raith killed Malcolm Dresden
« Reply #49 on: January 08, 2021, 05:52:28 PM »
Who says Lara even made it look like an aneurysm far as We Know one of the black cat detectives or coroner or somebody could have just made it look like that because like Murphy they got to justify as cause of death

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Re: Lara Raith killed Malcolm Dresden
« Reply #50 on: January 08, 2021, 06:07:29 PM »
That's not quite the same as getting shot at point blank range.. I don't think anyone made that part up, just set it up. Totally different.

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Re: Lara Raith killed Malcolm Dresden
« Reply #51 on: January 08, 2021, 06:25:26 PM »
Who says Lara even made it look like an aneurysm far as We Know one of the black cat detectives or coroner or somebody could have just made it look like that because like Murphy they got to justify as cause of death
Not necessary. Even the murder spree in eight night would have been seen as natural by everyone if Karen was not involved and it is still in the books as natural.

The white court has no need to make its kills look like something else. Justin does.
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Re: Lara Raith killed Malcolm Dresden
« Reply #52 on: January 08, 2021, 07:03:45 PM »
Harry was six when Malcolm died. He didn't meet Lara until the porno movie shoot. They didn't know he'd ever meet her then.
He still feel betrayed because she was keeping the secret from him and then married him (maybe) with the knowledge that she murdered his father. Even if he doesn't feel betrayed, it's still likely to be a character Harry knows. That's a bigger payoff. What's the point of Harry finding out that "White Court Vampire No. 37" killed his father? That's the answer to the question "why use a princess when a commoner can do the job?" Because Harry doesn't know the commoner.

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Re: Lara Raith killed Malcolm Dresden
« Reply #53 on: January 08, 2021, 11:35:22 PM »
This is death by White Court.
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"That's the thing," Butters said. "I couldn't find one."

I lifted both eyebrows at him.

He spread his hands. "Harry, I know my trade. I like figuring this stuff out. And I haven't got the foggiest why the woman is dead. Every test I ran came up negative; every theory I put together fell apart. Medically speaking, she's in good shape. It's like her whole system just… got the switch turned off. Everything at once. Never seen anything like it."
Since this is suspicious I would gather that the assumption is the defect was an attempt for the death to look like natural causes.  No indication that the White Court can do that except with a curse, unless of course Lord Raith could do it.  Somewhere it is stated that he could look at people and make them dead. An aneurysm which has ruptured would  be the same in all relevant characteristics as the ruptured heart of someone targeted by the curse. A small curse might look just like that.  This is assuming, of course that Jim has actually picked a villain at this point.

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Re: Lara Raith killed Malcolm Dresden
« Reply #54 on: January 12, 2021, 09:41:10 PM »
A death certificate or investigation can say whatever the hypothetical mind controlling White Court conspirators want it to say.

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« Reply #55 on: January 12, 2021, 10:47:56 PM »
A death certificate or investigation can say whatever the hypothetical mind controlling White Court conspirators want it to say.
Sure but why bother?
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Re: Lara Raith killed Malcolm Dresden
« Reply #56 on: January 14, 2021, 07:31:15 PM »
Sure but why bother?
To avoid suspicion from a child who could become a powerful wizard who grew up thinking that and never questioned it at all until a demon told him it wasn't natural causes. Even then, he doesn't seriously question it.

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Re: Lara Raith killed Malcolm Dresden
« Reply #57 on: January 14, 2021, 07:45:11 PM »
To avoid suspicion from a child who could become a powerful wizard who grew up thinking that and never questioned it at all until a demon told him it wasn't natural causes. Even then, he doesn't seriously question it.
White court vampires in the book never bother with that, they trust it looks natural enough and the mortals find some natural cause.

By the time Malcolm died papa Raith was aware of Margaret’s curse. He would have killed the child if he knew about him. He did not. Maybe he did not even know about Malcolm. He only learned everything in blood rites.

Justin had a reason to leav Harry alive.
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Re: Lara Raith killed Malcolm Dresden
« Reply #58 on: January 14, 2021, 08:33:39 PM »
This is death by White Court.Since this is suspicious I would gather that the assumption is the defect was an attempt for the death to look like natural causes.  No indication that the White Court can do that except with a curse, unless of course Lord Raith could do it.  Somewhere it is stated that he could look at people and make them dead. An aneurysm which has ruptured would  be the same in all relevant characteristics as the ruptured heart of someone targeted by the curse. A small curse might look just like that.  This is assuming, of course that Jim has actually picked a villain at this point.

Oh I think the White Court could be the one group of vamps that could pull off a murder and it would look like natural causes.  After all, what physical evidence would death by overwhelming sexual pleasure look like?  Maybe a youngish healthy man apparently dying in his sleep with a smile on his face?

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Re: Lara Raith killed Malcolm Dresden
« Reply #59 on: January 14, 2021, 10:05:47 PM »
Oh I think the White Court could be the one group of vamps that could pull off a murder and it would look like natural causes.  After all, what physical evidence would death by overwhelming sexual pleasure look like?  Maybe a youngish healthy man apparently dying in his sleep with a smile on his face?
So why make it look like an aneurysm? A warlock hiding a murder with magic would do so.
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