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The Accords, the Council, and Harry
« on: November 23, 2020, 05:16:07 PM »
Harry is no longer on the White Council, which is a member of the Accords.  They have cast him out.  They seem to be arguing that they can still come at him for breaking the laws even if he isn't a member, which is weird, but they do it to practitioners too weak to join the council so there is precedent.

But what if Harry were to join the accords like Marcone did?  Then he would be protected from the Council by the accords, and they can't really claim he's part of their group anymore.

So he would need three signatures that would be willing to irk the council.  I assume he can get winters.  Probably also Bigfoot's if his people actually join the council like he seemed to be proposing.  Ivy?  Think he could get Fix to sign for summer if Bigfoot doesn't join?  If he's looking at starting an organization and people are going to start to move against him anyways... it seems like being a signatory of the accords might be useful.  Maybe make Goodman a permanent retainer, hire the hellhound if he can afford it, get a permanent detachment of winter goons to control, that kind of thing.  I wonder if Bigfoot would be willing to take on young human apprentices recruited from the paranet that would fall under Harry's organization rather than the council...

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Re: The Accords, the Council, and Harry
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2020, 05:25:53 PM »
I wonder if Bigfoot would be willing to take on young human apprentices recruited from the paranet that would fall under Harry's organization rather than the council...

I like this part of the idea! This could be JB's YA title involving Maggie.

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Re: The Accords, the Council, and Harry
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2020, 06:15:29 PM »
Wait, are you actually suggesting that Harry should form an organisation dedicated to protecting him so he can break the Laws of Magic?

Because that's a far cry from avoiding problems with the Council, that would be a direct declaration of War.

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Re: The Accords, the Council, and Harry
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2020, 06:21:51 PM »


   I don't think it matters if Harry is still a member of the White Council or not, he breaks the Laws of Magic, they will lop his head off.  They do it with young warlocks all of the time, the Korean Kid wasn't a member, Molly wasn't when they put her on trial and would have lopped her head off.  Likewise with young Harry, he didn't even know there was such a thing as the White Council.  What might give them pause now is Harry has many powerful connections now that the Council doesn't want to piss off.

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Re: The Accords, the Council, and Harry
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2020, 06:32:12 PM »
But if Harry no longer qualifies as human he is outside their jurisdiction.
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Re: The Accords, the Council, and Harry
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2020, 07:11:10 PM »
Harry is still a member of an accorded nation. Winter.

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Re: The Accords, the Council, and Harry
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2020, 08:50:06 PM »
They left Harry alive at the end of BG because of Mab but even that wouldn't be enough if he went full warlock like Kemmler, they'd want to stop him at any cost before he can kick off an apocalypse. And if Mab isn't a big enough deterrent then whatever Harry can gather around him won't be either.
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Re: The Accords, the Council, and Harry
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2020, 10:08:59 PM »
But if Harry no longer qualifies as human he is outside their jurisdiction.
Harry is still human, even as Winter Knight, they are mortal humans.

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Re: The Accords, the Council, and Harry
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2020, 10:31:53 PM »
Harry is still human, even as Winter Knight, they are mortal humans.
For now. Mab obviously has plans.
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Re: The Accords, the Council, and Harry
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2020, 10:39:13 PM »
The OP's thinking is asked and answered in the book.  Being a member of the Accords wouldn't keep him out of trouble any more than it kept Marcone out.  He threatened the Council with Mab and told then to shove off. He threatened Carlos with Molly.  And basically has a pet God with which to rampage through the White Councils underwear drawers.

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Re: The Accords, the Council, and Harry
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2020, 11:09:17 PM »
The OP's thinking is asked and answered in the book.  Being a member of the Accords wouldn't keep him out of trouble any more than it kept Marcone out.  He threatened the Council with Mab and told then to shove off. He threatened Carlos with Molly.  And basically has a pet God with which to rampage through the White Councils underwear drawers.
Being a member of Mab's court however gives him protection against some sorts of attack. His enemies must operate in a way that is not seen as an attack on Mab's court. Preferably in such a way that Mab sees it as a consequence of Harry's stupidity.
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Re: The Accords, the Council, and Harry
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2020, 03:04:49 AM »
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And basically has a pet God with which to rampage through the White Councils underwear drawers.

Wait what?

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Re: The Accords, the Council, and Harry
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2020, 03:18:41 AM »
Wait what?
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Re: The Accords, the Council, and Harry
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2020, 02:52:35 PM »
Wait, wait, what? What break in? What pet God? WTF?

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Re: The Accords, the Council, and Harry
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2020, 06:38:47 PM »
Wait, wait, what? What break in? What pet God? WTF?
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