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[BG spoilers] So, what now?
« on: October 07, 2020, 06:17:12 PM »
SPOILERS because I am talking about what happens after BG

I am not talking about MM but about Harry's life

Yes, wedding is coming. I was wondering if Papa Raith will be present. I can feel the mantle wanting to kill him (he killed Harry's mom).
Seeing that in CE Mab is not mad at Harry, I guess he did not mess up with Lara or their public displays of courtship. Not a minor miracle, Harry being Harry.

Also, Justine baby and LTW year will be over. But I wanted to talk about Harry as the Wizard of Chicago. What will be his relationship with paranetters and other Mac's patrons? With Mac himself? Gary? I think Harry will become something like a myth to vanilla people. Somebody to be afraid of but also something you can trust to be on your side, even if you don't want him too close to you. Sort of a Batman

What do you think?
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Re: [BG spoilers] So, what know?
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2020, 08:00:28 PM »
I think people will be afraid to approach Harry, so he's only going to get the desperate. In the beginning, his clients were desperate because they didn't believe. Now, if he even has clients again, they're going to be desperate because they had overcome their fear.

If the marriage happens, it will be a political marriage. Harry and Lara will have largely separate lives. Harry will live at Castle Dresden and Lara will live at Raith Manor (or wherever). They'll interact a lot more than they did in the past, but not as much as one would expect in a modern marriage because it's not a modern marriage.

LtW isn't going to give Harry any information after they've kicked him out. That's just my guess. River Shoulder's might. River Shoulder's was told not to tell Harry too much, if I remember PT right. Maybe he agreed because it was the Council that told him and they had a claim on Harry. Now Harry will apprentice to River Shoulders (I hope). It's been hinted at enough. Then River can tell Harry whatever he feels is appropriate.

I think Harry's relationship with the paranetters at large will largely remain the same, but Harry's going to militarize those humans in or aware of the supernatural community who are interested. This would probably mostly be a subset of Paranet and law enforcement.

Harry's going to have the same relationship with Mac as he does now. Mac will one day stop being out, but it's going to be a spur of the moment thing. Not slowly getting more and more involved.

Harry is going to start building something to fight off threats to Chicago. I think it will mostly be human based, but he might do more with the little folk, the Tylwyth Teg, River's sect of Bigfeet, and maybe some others we've yet to meet. Have you noticed that basically every non-human supernatural group Harry encounters is either evil or the next best thing? I'd like to start running into some good guys.

I want to see more of Gary and Randy.

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Re: [BG spoilers] So, what know?
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2020, 08:04:10 PM »
There is also the army Harry gathered under his banner in battle ground. There is still a substantial number left and they probably look upon him as their leader. He has to handle that especially in the new Chicago.
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Re: [BG spoilers] So, what know?
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2020, 08:32:00 PM »
Question to ponder...if the wedding happens and Harry takes his vows as the Winter Knight (and I would assume he would given it's political wedding)...how will the obligations as a spouse interplay with his obligations (and urges/desires) as the Winter Knight?

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Re: [BG spoilers] So, what know?
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2020, 08:48:55 PM »
On two levels, Harry will be seen by the great and the good by attending these public functions with Lara (pornstar and wizard, the gossip columns will have a field day), as well as working with the powers that be but he is on another level going to work with the magical have nots of the Paranet and vanilla mortals, his Castle will be open to the public for functions, he will appear in media, and win their trust. Isolating himself from the White Council was a mistake he realises.

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Re: [BG spoilers] So, what know?
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2020, 09:19:15 PM »
There is also the army Harry gathered under his banner in battle ground. There is still a substantial number left and they probably look upon him as their leader. He has to handle that especially in the new Chicago.

Even though Harry says he can no longer feel them or the banner in his head?  It will be interesting if they do see him as their leader.  Wonder if Marcone/Namshiel will see them as a threat to his territory?

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Re: [BG spoilers] So, what know?
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2020, 11:24:19 PM »
1) The great hall of Castle Dresden will have a round table for the new group Harry founds to have meetings around. Because, you know... it has to.

2) The group Harry founds will be a major reason behind the inevitable White Council civil war. They have ignored the minor talents and pure mortals in the know for too long. And, the effectiveness of the group and... doing whatever it does... will swing some opinions in the Council, even if Harry is currently persona kill on sight. Of course, there will also be those that see it as the next coming of Kemmler.

3) Harry will become a semi-public figure. As said above... the wizard and the porn star. The tabloids will go crazy. But, seriously, after the battle people are bound to sit up and take more notice of him, mortal and supernatural alike.

And speaking of tabloids, the Arcane just got a whole heck of a lot more credibility. I wonder if Harry can get them an interview with River?

4) The Knights of the Bean will likely make up an "elite core" of mortal troops in Harry's organization. Eventually. I don't see them all coming at once. But, if they don't return as a group in at least some capacity... I will be profoundly disappointed with Butcher. He set it up too well.

On two levels, Harry will be seen by the great and the good by attending these public functions with Lara (pornstar and wizard, the gossip columns will have a field day), as well as working with the powers that be but he is on another level going to work with the magical have nots of the Paranet and vanilla mortals, his Castle will be open to the public for functions, he will appear in media, and win their trust. Isolating himself from the White Council was a mistake he realises.

Agreed. We'll probably get another Larry Fowler set scene in the next couple of books. Honestly, I can't wait. Heck, maybe it'll be one of the public appearances he and Lara will make together(I doubt it, but a guy can dream...) ;D
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Re: [BG spoilers] So, what know?
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2020, 11:38:06 PM »
Lara (pornstar and wizard, the gossip columns will have a field day)
Hmm. Is she publicly recognized as such? Apart from her using her "married" name of Romany, do I misremember or wasn't there a mask or some such involved?
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Re: [BG spoilers] So, what know?
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2020, 01:35:06 AM »
Question to ponder...if the wedding happens and Harry takes his vows as the Winter Knight (and I would assume he would given it's political wedding)...how will the obligations as a spouse interplay with his obligations (and urges/desires) as the Winter Knight?

I've been wondering about that myself. Would Mab have a legal claim on their offspring too? Does the Winter Mantel pass anything along to the child like the Hunger does? I'm willing to bet that Winter can be extremely persuasive on the wedding night.

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« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2020, 01:56:50 AM »
And does she become Lara Dresden? Because that won't cause Eb's head to explode at all! ;D
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Re: [BG spoilers] So, what know?
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2020, 02:04:54 AM »
I've been wondering about that myself. Would Mab have a legal claim on their offspring too? Does the Winter Mantel pass anything along to the child like the Hunger does? I'm willing to bet that Winter can be extremely persuasive on the wedding night.
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Re: [BG spoilers] So, what know?
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2020, 02:14:27 AM »
And does she become Lara Dresden? Because that won't cause Eb's head to explode at all! ;D

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Re: [BG spoilers] So, what know?
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2020, 03:00:02 AM »
1) The great hall of Castle Dresden will have a round table for the new group Harry founds to have meetings around. Because, you know... it has to.
That one depends on how badly he wants to tweak the Merlin's nose if I'm remembering the now sadly deleted Barnes and Noble q&a.
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Re: [BG spoilers] So, what know?
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2020, 03:41:29 AM »
That one depends on how badly he wants to tweak the Merlin's nose if I'm remembering the now sadly deleted Barnes and Noble q&a.


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Re: [BG spoilers] So, what know?
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2020, 06:48:41 AM »
I really don't want to see Harry having more kids so I hope the marriage is not consummated (because, even when we know it is difficult for a white vampire to get pregnant, it is just Harry's luck).
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