Good and evil is not the same as lawful and unlawful.
I agree with this so much. (I'm the one saying Harry is guilty of murder, but what he did wasn't evil; I think what he did was good). I noticed years ago a trend to equate the two in political and/or current event debates. Just no.
“Without authority”, this was a set up masterminded by Marcone and Mab. Marcone was the owner of the.
This is an argument that Marcone had no right of self defense. Not that Harry had permission to be there.
If he had permission to be there, then he couldn't have entered Hades. The way wouldn't have lead to Hades.
no intent to commit a burglary or theft within the vault. If they had stolen some of Ferrovax’s stuff in his sub vault yes, but they didn’t.
Murphy asked Harry if he wanted her to go with him to rob a Greek god. He responded "Burgle, technically." Harry intended to commit the forcible felony of burglary in Marcone's bank.
Harvey wasn’t a kidnapping by Harry, he used neither threat nor physical force, Harvey offered no resistance after Harry interposed himself between Harvey and Tessa’s Goons gunfire. No forcible kidnapping of Harvey, no murder charge against Harry. If Harvey hadn’t relented and Harry had to knock out Harvey to spirit him away then yes that would have been forcible kidnapping.
That's not what I said. I said Harvey died because of Harry's felonious activity. Felony murder, generally, is the legal rule that one meets the
mens rea requirement for murder when one's actions cause another's death. I also said there is specific case law in Illinois that supports the application of the felony murder principle to Harvey's death.
At best Harry set off some fireworks, not a deadly weapon, is that a felony or misdemeanour.
I know of a case where a woman was charged with adw for hitting someone with a shoe. Lot's of things can be considered deadly weapons. See generally
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/kby5pn/a-brief-history-of-the-legal-definition-of-deadly-weapon. The case of pepper spray as a deadly weapon is particularly apropos.
Binders guys did use deadly weapons against the police, but they are not “people” , they are not capable of committing a crime.
Is it likely that someone was going to be killed over the course of the heist? If the answer is yes, then felony murder applies in Illinois. (Or at least that element of it was).
The handcuffs were never stolen, they were in the custody of the guards at all times.
I can't tell if you're joking or not. If you're not, tell it to the judge.
The guards were confined to a controlled space but there was no criminal motive for their confinement (lawful authority to be in the vault) so they weren’t kidnapped either.
Assuming without conceding that they were lawfully present because Marcone consented to their presence, the guards didn't consent to their confinement. Marcone can no more consent to the guards confinement than he can give consent for his prostitutes to have sex with Johns.
Tilley can tell if someone is lying, Harry can admit the truth to Tilley, because all he has done is let some fireworks off. Bad Harry. I suspect Jim had this in mind when he created Tilley as a character.
Harry committed a laundry list of crimes. Telling Tilley the truth carries with it great risk of being charged and convicted of those crimes.
[1]Deidre Killed the guard, but [2]only she is responsible.
2. Not legally.
Harvey was murdered by Tessa who is still at large, and the best person who can help track her down and bring her to justice is Harry.
This is true. It also doesn't absolve Harry of any legal liability. It's not relevant to the laws of Illinois. It could be relevant to their
enforcement.
Putting the jurisdictional arguments of crimes committed in the Nevernever aside for a moment, Harry would also be criminally culpable for the deaths of Deirdre and Ascher.