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Sir Stuart of the Colonial Marines
« on: August 18, 2018, 04:46:10 AM »
Do you think we'll ever get the full story of how a Knight ended up fighting against the Red Coats in the Colonial Marines?

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Re: Sir Stuart of the Colonial Marines
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2018, 12:48:04 AM »
Same way Sir Stewart acts in Star Trek, I guess.

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Re: Sir Stuart of the Colonial Marines
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2018, 09:41:01 AM »
Even a Knight needs a day job, I think.
btw, do we know for sure that Sir Stuart was a Knight? I know he knows of the swords (with their original names), but I assumed it was just ghostly gossip going around (heh).
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فتتبعت السواقي وتسلقت الصخور
هل تحممت بعطره وتنشفت بنور
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Re: Sir Stuart of the Colonial Marines
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2018, 10:25:33 AM »
Sir Stuart appears to be a British title, as in Knight of the British Empire.  Not I think, as in Knight of the Cross.  I don't know that it's relevant to the Dresdenverse at all./shrug

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Re: Sir Stuart of the Colonial Marines
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2018, 10:37:09 AM »
I've always assumed him to be the British Title, which is odd because he was in the Colonial Marines, a fact which Dresden points out and Stuart says it's a long tale.

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Re: Sir Stuart of the Colonial Marines
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2018, 10:41:02 AM »
Looks like I misunderstood your original question, Con.
Anyway, one of my favorite "disposable" characters in the series :D
هل أخذت الغاب مثلي منزلاً دون القصور
فتتبعت السواقي وتسلقت الصخور
هل تحممت بعطره وتنشفت بنور
وشربت الفجر خمراً من كؤوس من أثير

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Re: Sir Stuart of the Colonial Marines
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2018, 02:07:42 PM »
He apparently had a family in the colonies, going by the one memory of his we see. My guess? He was an English knight, got hitched and retired to the colonies, then when the revolution broke out, he felt more American than English.
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Re: Sir Stuart of the Colonial Marines
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2018, 05:49:07 PM »
He apparently had a family in the colonies, going by the one memory of his we see. My guess? He was an English knight, got hitched and retired to the colonies, then when the revolution broke out, he felt more American than English.

Could have been sentenced to penal transportation to America. He'd likely have lost his title, though he'd have lost it if he formally defected, too, and titles weren't a thing in the fledgling US (one of the less-reported reasons they wanted to rebel in the first place). Colonial Marines weren't a thing until Washington needed to protect the Colonial flotilla, circa 1777ish (might've been in 1776, can't remember precisely). There's not a whole lot of information about British defectors to America during the Revolution; it was largely the other way around (though it's not exactly defecting if you never join a revolution). I'd imagine there is a specific reason for it, and it very well may have been a result of Washington being a Knight of the Cross.

I doubt we'll ever hear the whole story, unless Harry gets the chance to hang out with Papa Murphy again.

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Re: Sir Stuart of the Colonial Marines
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2018, 05:52:12 PM »
Even if he "officially" lost the title, there's nothing stopping him from self-identifying and introducing himself as "Sir Stuart" anyway.

I'm pretty sure Morgan reflexively thought of himself as a "Warden" even when he was the WC's Public Enemy Number One.
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Re: Sir Stuart of the Colonial Marines
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2018, 06:47:17 PM »
Even if he "officially" lost the title, there's nothing stopping him from self-identifying and introducing himself as "Sir Stuart" anyway.

I'm pretty sure Morgan reflexively thought of himself as a "Warden" even when he was the WC's Public Enemy Number One.

That was kind of my point; I hedged it at the end there, but wasn't really clear. I have a habit of rambling, if you haven't noticed.

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Re: Sir Stuart of the Colonial Marines
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2018, 07:43:46 PM »
Aah, yeah, I gotcha.

Random thought: Maybe he's just a big fan of Aliens.
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Re: Sir Stuart of the Colonial Marines
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2018, 05:01:02 PM »
Is there anyone in the Dresden files that isn't explicitly supernatural (and has more than one appearance) that isn't suspected of being a Knight of the Cross?
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Re: Sir Stuart of the Colonial Marines
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2018, 05:48:05 AM »
Is there anyone in the Dresden files that isn't explicitly supernatural (and has more than one appearance) that isn't suspected of being a Knight of the Cross?

Yes...  Jim writes a tight story with characters that hold meaning.  That's why everyone Harry knows is part of the supernatural world.  If they aren't supernatural themselves, they are involved.  Think about it...  When was the last book Harry knew someone who was completely oblivious to the supernatural?  That's why there are so many theories on people being Knights of the Cross.  What vanilla mortals are really involved in the stories?  Marcone, Hendricks (kinda), Murphy, Butters, Michael (and family), Sonja...  How many of them have taken up a Sword?  All but Marcone, and Hendricks, and Jim has hinted that Marcone has taken a different path in Mirror Mirror leaving the opening that he is one!  So yeah when a vanilla mortal pops up people are going to wonder since just about every other vanilla mortal that's significant to the story has done so.
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Re: Sir Stuart of the Colonial Marines
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2018, 05:56:00 AM »
Nobody's tried to push for Rawlins as a Knight, as far as I recall. 

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« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2018, 10:06:18 AM »
Nobody's tried to push for Rawlins as a Knight, as far as I recall.
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