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Re: Fist full of Warlocks spoilers Possible clue about Cowl?
« Reply #30 on: June 10, 2018, 11:48:36 PM »
supposedly in the new Solo movie it's going to happen.  The video I watched basically said what you all have said.  Either Solo bullshitting to sound good, or using black holes.

I've seen Solo; the 12 parsecs thing does get explained in a satisfactory(and very cool) fashion. Though I did always like the old "black hole" explanation, too.

More on topic: I'd bet that Kemmler never faked his death at all. I bet he actually died, and managed to UN-die after the fact. Or at least made preparations while he was alive which allowed him to regain corporeal form after death. If anyone could figure out how to do that, it would be Kemmler. The Corpsetaker was working on doing that in Ghost Story and (s)he was just an apprentice of Kemmler's, likely less brilliant than the teacher. Hell, Harry managed to become solid and visible while he was dead, and he started his Afterlife fairly clueless about what life was like for ex-humans.
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Re: Fist full of Warlocks spoilers Possible clue about Cowl?
« Reply #31 on: June 11, 2018, 12:01:13 AM »
Just curious isnt there a WOJ out there that says Kemmler is dead dead dead and not coming back?

Although it would be semi cool if cowl and kemmler were fragments of the same person

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Re: Fist full of Warlocks spoilers Possible clue about Cowl?
« Reply #32 on: June 11, 2018, 01:15:44 PM »
Just curious isnt there a WOJ out there that says Kemmler is dead dead dead and not coming back?

Although it would be semi cool if cowl and kemmler were fragments of the same person
Nah, that WOJ was about Justin.  Granted since there are theories that Justin, Kemmler, and Cowl are all the same person, it often comes up in that context.  I think the WOJ on Kemmler was just that they were REAAAL careful that last time.  But then, the counterargument is that if they Missed Bob, they could have Missed Kemmler in all sorts of ways (Corpsetaker-style body snatching being a popular one)
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Re: Fist full of Warlocks spoilers Possible clue about Cowl?
« Reply #33 on: June 11, 2018, 01:51:26 PM »
Nah, that WOJ was about Justin.  Granted since there are theories that Justin, Kemmler, and Cowl are all the same person, it often comes up in that context.  I think the WOJ on Kemmler was just that they were REAAAL careful that last time.  But then, the counterargument is that if they Missed Bob, they could have Missed Kemmler in all sorts of ways (Corpsetaker-style body snatching being a popular one)

Also what if Kemmler just pulled another Kemmler into this reality, and then stepped into that Kemmlers reality temporarily?
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Re: Fist full of Warlocks spoilers Possible clue about Cowl?
« Reply #34 on: June 11, 2018, 01:59:07 PM »
Also what if Kemmler just pulled another Kemmler into this reality, and then stepped into that Kemmlers reality temporarily?
It is an entirely valid possibility
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Re: Fist full of Warlocks spoilers Possible clue about Cowl?
« Reply #35 on: June 11, 2018, 03:16:51 PM »
Also what if Kemmler just pulled another Kemmler into this reality, and then stepped into that Kemmlers reality temporarily?
My going theory is Kemmler tried to summon his 7th version(having faked his death 6 times) and he was greater than the sum of his parts, ganked Kemmler and took Justin to hide in for the future... the WHY though...
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Re: Fist full of Warlocks spoilers Possible clue about Cowl?
« Reply #36 on: June 13, 2018, 03:21:13 AM »
Nah, that WOJ was about Justin.  Granted since there are theories that Justin, Kemmler, and Cowl are all the same person, it often comes up in that context.  I think the WOJ on Kemmler was just that they were REAAAL careful that last time.  But then, the counterargument is that if they Missed Bob, they could have Missed Kemmler in all sorts of ways (Corpsetaker-style body snatching being a popular one)

I think there were WOJ's about both of them. First that Justin was D.E.D., and then someone asked about Kemmler and got an answer of "at least as dead as Justin".

Sadlyh, nobody tried to follow that up with 'How dead is Simon, then?'.

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Re: Fist full of Warlocks spoilers Possible clue about Cowl?
« Reply #37 on: June 13, 2018, 04:21:00 AM »
I think there were WOJ's about both of them. First that Justin was D.E.D., and then someone asked about Kemmler and got an answer of "at least as dead as Justin".

Sadlyh, nobody tried to follow that up with 'How dead is Simon, then?'.

Jim has since come out and admitted that he has dropped at least 2 pieces of misinformation!  Justin being D E D, dead is most likely the one if I had to choose between Kemmler or Justin being alive.
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Re: Fist full of Warlocks spoilers Possible clue about Cowl?
« Reply #38 on: June 13, 2018, 11:24:47 AM »
Jim has since come out and admitted that he has dropped at least 2 pieces of misinformation!  Justin being D E D, dead is most likely the one if I had to choose between Kemmler or Justin being alive.
I always assumed one of them was that time he trolled us by telling us that we'd see who was getting Fidelacchius in TC, only for that statement to have technically been referring to him handing it over to Nic.  And more recently there was an offhand mention of a Murphy family funeral that Im suspicious of.   
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Re: Fist full of Warlocks spoilers Possible clue about Cowl?
« Reply #39 on: June 13, 2018, 03:05:46 PM »
Hmm. Well about that Murphy Family Funeral, one of my ideas was that there will be another event like the Unseelie Incursion of 1994 where Milwaukee ends up vanishing for some time, say a day, and replaced with an untouched forest.  I've wondered if there will be a Murphy family gathering when there will be another such event.  Perhaps there will be some type event at Murphy's (whoever the Murphy family member is) funeral or wedding (as it is sometimes mentioned that weddings are funerals).

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Re: Fist full of Warlocks spoilers Possible clue about Cowl?
« Reply #40 on: June 13, 2018, 04:25:57 PM »
Yeah, that was because of a retcon. Vader wasn't supposed to be Luke's dad in A New Hope; Lucas didn't figure that out until Empire. Funny enough, Mark Hammil didn't know what Vader was saying (since James Earl Jones only did voice work; it was a guy with a hilarious Scottish accent in the mask [fun source] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSm9DDxQv8E), and when actually filming the "I am your father" scene, the dialogue was totally different. Hammil didn't find out what was going on until he saw the voiced cut, and he was pissed, because his acting didn't fit the dialogue because of it.

Anyway, Lucas needed to explain the line from A New Hope, and in doing so, turned Obi Wan into a jerk and named a Trope about annoying metaphorical truths: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MetaphoricallyTrue?from=Main.FromACertainPointOfView

Hmm, I heard that Mark was having trouble getting the correct emotion in that scene with the lines being said by Prowse so Lucas pulled him aside and told him and him only what was actually going to be said. After that Mark got the take right and they went with that scene in the movie. I wonder which version is right?

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Re: Fist full of Warlocks spoilers Possible clue about Cowl?
« Reply #41 on: June 13, 2018, 04:41:42 PM »
Hmm, I heard that Mark was having trouble getting the correct emotion in that scene with the lines being said by Prowse so Lucas pulled him aside and told him and him only what was actually going to be said. After that Mark got the take right and they went with that scene in the movie. I wonder which version is right?
Mark's talked about how he was the only one in on it actually.
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Re: Fist full of Warlocks spoilers Possible clue about Cowl?
« Reply #42 on: June 14, 2018, 04:47:28 AM »
I think there were WOJ's about both of them. First that Justin was D.E.D., and then someone asked about Kemmler and got an answer of "at least as dead as Justin".


Of course, JB has also noted that death is fragile in the DV.

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« Reply #43 on: June 14, 2018, 05:04:42 AM »
Hmm. Well about that Murphy Family Funeral, one of my ideas was that there will be another event like the Unseelie Incursion of 1994 where Milwaukee ends up vanishing for some time, say a day, and replaced with an untouched forest.  I've wondered if there will be a Murphy family gathering when there will be another such event.  Perhaps there will be some type event at Murphy's (whoever the Murphy family member is) funeral or wedding (as it is sometimes mentioned that weddings are funerals).

Or, maybe someone is just getting married. :)

lol...  This quote about a wedding is a funeral with a cake is what got me thinking about Murphy moving on (I thought someone was quoting Jim for some reason), and starting the other subject....  The wedding is hers, and the funeral was the love Harry had for her and his hope for them to be together.
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Re: Fist full of Warlocks spoilers Possible clue about Cowl?
« Reply #44 on: June 15, 2018, 06:19:47 PM »
Mark's talked about how he was the only one in on it actually.

I've heard the exact opposite, that he didn't know and was pissed about it. Myeh, this is what you get when you rely on fickle statements.

As far as Justin's status goes, I've always wondered if "D-E-D" was an acronym.