Wild Card Comics: Puck

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I've bought and read one of the comics where Puck and Murphy go up against each other and Puck nearly knocks her out, permanently. 
I saw the thought bubble which hints that Murphy's stand against Puck may result in unforeseen consequences.  Of course, I chose to purchase the Puck vs Murphy edition to see if I could garner any clues about Murphy.  So, in reading the limited episode out of 6, there is a suggestion that Murphy's  standoff against Puck will have a unforeseen consequence.  And, Murphy also impressed Puck. 

Since I've only had and viewed part 4, i think, of a 6 part series, I was wondering if anyone had more to talk about regarding Puck.  And, if you could answer some questions for me.

First question, Did Harry go to Lea for assistance against Puck? Did Puck interfere before Harry was able to consult Lea? Was Lea ever in the series onscreen with Harry.
I ask because in my head regarding my Murphy=Mab theory, Mab and Lea would have temporal restrictions placed on them from interfering with a Puck vs Murphy fight.  Puck may be serving as some sort of chooser/teacher who later down the line cross paths again with Murphy in some sort of plan that involves time travel and a link between Murphy=>Mab.  If in that link into the past Murphy greets and sees a young Lea, this history would likely require Murphy fighting Puck and TIME would likely want to minimize Lea's role in Murphy's history that leads up to that pivotal moment of connection between TTMurphy and YLea. (Young Lea)

[Lidy]

Harry summoned Lea, and she was going to help in exchange for nothing but Harry's well-being... but Puck reminded Lea that Mab was in his debt after he did a favor for her, and told her to get lost, so she wasn't of much use, and Harry had to figure out how to deal with Puck on his own. She didn't share a scene with Murphy.

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K. Thanks.  I'll have to consider this in my theory.

We still have lea, mab seemingly being unable to interfere in the puck vs. Murphy fight specifically but also in the whole puck vs Chicago fight in general.

And it is sort of consistent with my prediction that she would be restrained from interfering possibly in my mind due to temporal reasons underlying that debt.

So, I conclude Murphy is at least being fashioned into a nevernever type entity at some point who will fight in that arena. It's why idharry tells Harry to tell Murphy everything about the nevernever.

[jonas]

Who the HELL is Puck?  Cause I keep thinking of the Marvel version of Puck with the dark razor and the midget height and that just can't be right lol.

[Mr. Death]

Who the HELL is Puck?  Cause I keep thinking of the Marvel version of Puck with the dark razor and the midget height and that just can't be right lol.

Trickster faerie, mostly. Also known as Robin Goodfellow, and spends the entirety of A Midsummer Night's Dream trolling the humans and/or mucking things up in a funny way.

Also the subject of one of the best episodes of Gargoyles and one of my favorite characters from that, so now I guess I have to track this comic down.

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I didn't purchase the entire series just one episode of the six part series.  It has Puck ambushing Murphy, and her pulling out all her tricks to survive, lure him to isolated place to protect innocents, and then unload on him. Puck then punches her lights out but Murphy had already called for backup and the cops arrive in time before he could do more than just that.

I think the following will hint at in part what she will become as a result of her stand against Puck:
In a flashback, her father tells her "The only think that ever lasts in this world is the impact we make on others.  An act of courage or decency may only last a moment, but the effects can ripple outward forever." This is said exactly as she makes her last stand against Puck alone with steel-jacketed rounds.  Her last stand is to protect Chicago from Puck who has killed cops, Marcone's men, and white court vampires. He has been setting the blame of these murders on each other.

Lidy states the following about Harry and Lea.

Harry summoned Lea, and she was going to help in exchange for nothing but Harry's well-being... but Puck reminded Lea that Mab was in his debt after he did a favor for her, and told her to get lost, so she wasn't of much use, and Harry had to figure out how to deal with Puck on his own. She didn't share a scene with Murphy.

So, it seems Lea herself can't interfere with Puck's mission and it's unlikely Mab herself would as she is already in Puck's debt.  I had argued that there will be a connection later on between Murphy and Puck whereby Murphy gets indebted to Puck in her ascension to Mab 1000+ years back in the past.

[jonas]

Oh lol... you know this actually might mesh with my Murphy as starborn/chooser aspect. If even partially correct she has the same potential to change things Harry does, she just lacks the magical Aura he projects onto everyone by proxy, she has to do it the old fashioned mortal way of antagonistic expression. She does this with both Harry and Butters btw to great effect.
Basically by either close relationship or butting heads she tempers the other person in ways, her confrontation of Harry's temper in WK being one example on par with the Butters incident.

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We also have WOJ that Puck is like 1500+ years old. He is older than our Mab.

[RobReece]

Oh lol... you know this actually might mesh with my Murphy as starborn/chooser aspect. If even partially correct she has the same potential to change things Harry does, she just lacks the magical Aura he projects onto everyone by proxy, she has to do it the old fashioned mortal way of antagonistic expression. She does this with both Harry and Butters btw to great effect.
Basically by either close relationship or butting heads she tempers the other person in ways, her confrontation of Harry's temper in WK being one example on par with the Butters incident.

Everybody has that potential, there wasn't anything supernatural about it.  Sometimes just being willing to listen can change another persons life.

[jonas]

Everybody has that potential, there wasn't anything supernatural about it.  Sometimes just being willing to listen can change another persons life.

As it is applied in the books... no, not everybody has that potential. nor is that really a proper description... she certainly changed Denton's life, and that was her antagonistic contribution, Murder of the deserved.

[RobReece]

As it is applied in the books... no, not everybody has that potential. nor is that really a proper description... she certainly changed Denton's life, and that was her antagonistic contribution, Murder of the deserved.

so only 'special' people can commit murder?

I guess I'm not seeing how what Murphy did in those situations was 'supernatural'.  She was being a friend/mentor/leader, but that's who/what she is.

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I could see Murphy's proximity and influence on Harry, a Starborn, placing similar influence upon Murphy.
There is WOJL that Harry heavily influences those around him, there might be a similar but opposite force going the other way around. Or, something being bestowed upon those he influences to become some sort of mini Starborn, not quite but I think you get the idea.

[jonas]

so only 'special' people can commit murder?

I guess I'm not seeing how what Murphy did in those situations was 'supernatural'.  She was being a friend/mentor/leader, but that's who/what she is.

I'm talking about Changing immortals, chaffing on allies in supernatural ways metaphysically tied into such mundane things as metaphorically applied in real life.
She was Judging and Choosing, because that's what she is. It's applied again and again, and in those situations where she tries to do so when it's not her place she inevitably fails.
Same as Saying Harry's meant to be a destroyer.. certainly there are others' but they aren't Harry Dresden.

[RobReece]

I'm talking about Changing immortals, chaffing on allies in supernatural ways metaphysically tied into such mundane things as metaphorically applied in real life.
She was Judging and Choosing, because that's what she is. It's applied again and again, and in those situations where she tries to do so when it's not her place she inevitably fails.
Same as Saying Harry's meant to be a destroyer.. certainly there are others' but they aren't Harry Dresden.

okay, sure, go with it.  For me, she was being a friend, nothing supernatural required.

[jonas]

okay, sure, go with it.  For me, she was being a friend, nothing supernatural required.

Yea, great thing about being written on multiple levels huh? Enjoy all the Woj's about unintended consequences of hanging around Harry, him Naming things. Immortals being unchanging(and hey, Pucks not an Imm... oh, yea? He IS?) and how Nemesis can't mess with Angels because they are too absolute but Harry nicknaming Uriel scared the hell out of him, ect, ect. Sure, yea, i'll go with it all the way.