Unsolved Mystery Book6 Lord Raith

[wardenferry419]

Lord Raith and his magic protection. How did that happen?

[Snark Knight]

Is this all that unsolved? In hindsight it sounds Outsidery as all hell, even if the specifics aren't confirmed.

[Arjan]

Could be something Margaret gave him, after all she knew her way around it too.

[wardenferry419]

I agree with it being Outsidery. It is the details I am curious about.

[Arjan]

I agree with it being Outsidery. It is the details I am curious about.

I am quite sure it was mentioned somewhere that you needed mortals to summon them. Raith was not a wizard himself but he has a big library to attract them.

Justin worked with outsiders but for some reason he seems not inventive enough. Margaret was obviously interested in outsiders with that whole starborn thing she planned.

It could have been Cowl, he must have been active for quite some time.

[Cozarkian]

Some kind of deal with Outsiders.

@Arjan To clarify, 1 Outsider claimed to work with Justin.

[Arjan]

Some kind of deal with Outsiders.

@Arjan To clarify, 1 Outsider claimed to work with Justin.

The version of the story in Ghost Story is most reliable. I assume Justin had summoned him but he could have been here already. Fact is that Justin interacted with it.

I do not think working with outsiders is that safe, I suppose that in the end you always end up working for them and getting mentally influenced as well. The outsider has its own agenda.

But if I remember woj correctly both elaine and harry have the same starborn potential. That is no accident. It is the second tie between Justin and outsiders.

[Rasins]

The way magic just sluffs off of him, it's been described as the same way it does Outsiders.

One theory is that he's got a talisman (his earring) that gives him the anti-magic benefit.

Where the earring came from ... Got me.

[Cozarkian]

The version of the story in Ghost Story is most reliable. I assume Justin had summoned him but he could have been here already. Fact is that Justin interacted with it.

I do not think working with outsiders is that safe, I suppose that in the end you always end up working for them and getting mentally influenced as well. The outsider has its own agenda.

But if I remember woj correctly both elaine and harry have the same starborn potential. That is no accident. It is the second tie between Justin and outsiders.

Did GS show us Justin actually interacting with HWWB or admitting to doing so? I don't remember that. I thought GS is where realized that the only connection between Justin and HWWB was HWWB claiming to have been sent by Justin, which could easily have been a lie.

Justin's use of Starborn is a connection to Outsiders, but quite possibly it is a connection that makes Justin an enemy of Outsiders, not an ally.

[Rasins]

Did GS show us Justin actually interacting with HWWB or admitting to doing so? I don't remember that. I thought GS is where realized that the only connection between Justin and HWWB was HWWB claiming to have been sent by Justin, which could easily have been a lie.

Justin's use of Starborn is a connection to Outsiders, but quite possibly it is a connection that makes Justin an enemy of Outsiders, not an ally.

I've long theorized that we'll find out that Justin wasn't really a bad guy.  He may have used rough means to attain his ends.

[Avernite]

I've long theorized that we'll find out that Justin wasn't really a bad guy.  He may have used rough means to attain his ends.

'rough means' as in baseballs to train shields? Not really a bad guy.

'rough means' as in thralldom? Still a bad guy.

[RobReece]

'rough means' as in baseballs to train shields? Not really a bad guy.

'rough means' as in thralldom? Still a bad guy.

If I remember correctly, didn't Anna teach Morgan using stones?  I think I'd prefer baseballs... well, I'd prefer snowballs, but I'd take baseballs over stones...

[Talby16]

If I remember correctly, didn't Anna teach Morgan using stones?  I think I'd prefer baseballs... well, I'd prefer snowballs, but I'd take baseballs over stones...

I don't know...Stones could potentially shatter on impact which would limit there effectiveness past a certain point. Baseballs could potentially do more damage.

[wardenferry419]

'rough means' as in baseballs to train shields? Not really a bad guy.

'rough means' as in thralldom? Still a bad guy.

That about covers which end of the spectrum that Justin was on.

[Rasins]

'rough means' as in baseballs to train shields? Not really a bad guy.

'rough means' as in thralldom? Still a bad guy.

I still haven't worked out the thralldom part, but Yeah, baseballs aren't so bad.  Harry survived and thrived AND learned the lesson.

Leah has a point in her training of Molly.

I imagine that Justin knew he had a short time to get these starborn trained.

Remember that he also used baseball as a reward for Harry lighting his fire.