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Re: Unsolved Mystery Book5 Nico knows Maggie
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2017, 08:34:23 AM »
Marcone represents authority. Harry has a natural tendency to give authority the finger. He probably gets it from his mom.

That and the whole Justin Dumorne betrayal thing, spending several years in the foster care system, his warlock trial, Morgan...

Harry has many compelling reasons for distrusting authority.

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« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2017, 02:54:25 PM »
Well, Nico had Shiro tortured and killed. Harry liked and respected Shiro. Shiro took Harry's place as the sacrifice for the shroud corruption.
That and the whole Justin Dumorne betrayal thing, spending several years in the foster care system, his warlock trial, Morgan...

Harry has many compelling reasons for distrusting authority.

That makes sense.  Still his hatred for Johnny Marcone seemed odd.
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« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2017, 08:00:05 PM »
Sorry Kindler.  I meant Harry's hatred of Marcone.

D'oh. That's on me. Pronouns, amirite?

Personally, I think his disdain and animosity for Marcone is for a few reasons. First: Harry works with the cops most of the time as of Storm Front (he'd have been bankrupt without them). Marcone has been making their lives hell. Harry's friendly with a lot of them—even vitriolic bros with Carmichael (whose Heroic Sacrifice in Fool Moon was, I think, the highlight of the book, especially when Carmichael tells everyone to do whatever Harry says, which is subtly excellent characterization for such a young writer like Jim was at the time).

Second, Marcone's business requires victims to be successful. Harry sees him as a predator, someone picking on the weak, kids notwithstanding.

Third, recall the total interaction. It starts with Harry being threatened and forced into the car. Harry responds to the threats with his normal flippancy. Marcone initially tries to offer him a wad of money, which Harry resents, because (let's face it) Young Harry regards himself the same way Don Quixote does (except they aren't windmills; they actually are giants), which pisses him off a bit, even if he does think about it.

Fourth, Marcone threatens Murphy. She and Susan are pretty much Harry's only friends, and Susan is more of an acquaintance.

Then they soulgaze, and Marcone scares the crap out of him.

As a sidenote, I really, really want to know what Marcone saw, because he started treating Dresden with an awful lot of respect after that. One of my favorite Marcone scenes is when he chucks the knife into Will's bicep for sassing him, basically because Will isn't Harry. Their Enemy Mine relationship is a whole lot of fun.

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Re: Unsolved Mystery Book5 Nico knows Maggie
« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2017, 09:21:47 PM »
I also want to know what people see when they soul-gaze Harry. Maybe we will get a peek via someone else in the upcoming books.

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« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2017, 09:33:24 PM »
Maybe someday we will get the Harry and Murphy soulgaze with a shared POV.
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« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2017, 10:11:11 PM »
One can only hope...

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« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2017, 10:15:40 PM »
As far as Maggir Sr. goes, someday I am going to go through each book with a notepad and record every mention of her ever made.
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Re: Unsolved Mystery Book5 Nico knows Maggie
« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2017, 07:50:54 AM »


That makes sense.  Still his hatred for Johnny Marcone seemed odd.
Why? Marcone is a crime lord. Harry wants to protect his own moral compass. He needs to create some distance even when they use each other. He antagonises Lara all the time for similar reasons.
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Re: Unsolved Mystery Book5 Nico knows Maggie
« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2017, 08:39:38 AM »
Yeah but Marcone has a rule about hurting kids, so that makes him a good guy that never does anything bad, you see?

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« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2017, 02:26:03 PM »
As far as Maggir Sr. goes, someday I am going to go through each book with a notepad and record every mention of her ever made.

You may have that chance depending on when Peace Talks comes out.

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« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2017, 03:36:09 PM »
You may have that chance depending on when Peace Talks comes out.
It will all be explained in the prequel Jim will publish after the bat is completed :)
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« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2017, 08:47:08 PM »
Is that a joke or are you serious? Because that would be great!
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« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2017, 09:18:15 PM »
Is that a joke or are you serious? Because that would be great!
I think Griffin can give you a synopsis of all three books and their covers.
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« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2017, 09:32:55 PM »
Got me good.
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« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2017, 04:29:30 PM »
That makes sense.  Still his hatred for Johnny Marcone seemed odd.

Harry could easily abuse his magical skills to make a lot of money. Instead, he lives like a pauper while choosing to help and protect people. Marcone lives richly by exploiting people. Harry sees in Marcone a person that Harry could be if he were to slip up and take to big a step down the path of power, and Harry is terrified of becoming that person.