Mab/Murphy Ironies

[wardenferry419]

Escape could be one option. My preferred option is that the dreams of mortals drew these outsiders to us like a beacon of curiousity.

[Talby16]

And then they changed form based on our dreams?

[raidem]

Nah, woj strongly suggests outsiders strictly from other universe, not ours.

[wardenferry419]

Not arguing that point at all. Just wondering what if they came before and represent the origin of all the current supernatural forces.

[raidem]

Two others post on Reddit.

I understood it was a cross-dimensional plot, involving alternate worlds, not future and past versions of the same world.

Mirror Mirror does not involve time travel.

My post on Reddit.

Cross-time is a early name for travel between alternate realites, (alternate histories), a sub-type of time travel according to wikipedia on time travel.
Since the 1950s, this type of fiction has, to a large extent, merged with science fiction tropes involving time travel between alternate histories, psychic awareness of the existence of one universe by the people in another, or time travel that results in history splitting into two or more timelines. Cross-time, time-splitting, and alternate history themes have become so closely interwoven that it is impossible to discuss them fully apart from one another.
We know there will be a book on Time travel per Harry later in the Case Files, so again this verifies the "impossible to discuss them [time travel, alternate history] fully apart from one another." In addition, there have been mathematicians that describe the type of mathematics that would be at play in such a universe that allows what has been described as existing in the Dresdenverse, (time travel, travel between parallel realities, etc) that mathematics requires further TEMPORAL factors in addition to the time factor we are use to. So, there would be in fact a temporal travel at play, but one not "time" as defined by ours.

[jonas]

And then they changed form based on our dreams?

"outside" or beyond reality has always been a thing, in olden days Jotunheim was considered outside reality
the current outsiders directly draw upon Lovecraftian form, because that's the greatest thought connected to outside reality in this day and age.

[wardenferry419]

Maybe the Never-never is similar to Lovecraft's Dreamlands?

[Rasins]

Maybe the Never-never is similar to Lovecraft's Dreamlands?

I think it contains them.

[raidem]

Murphy threatens jokingly to choke Harry in SF.  Mab later smothers Harry with a pillow.

“Gosh, you’re cute when you’re angry,” I responded.
Her eyes narrowed dangerously.
“It makes your little button nose all pink and your eyes get bloodshot and even bluer.”
“Did you have any last words, Dresden, or should I just choke you now?”

[wardenferry419]

You know, both women (Murphy and Mab) are often very irritated with Harry. Annnd..., now I am stepping away from Raidem's abyss very slowly.

[Talby16]

I think drawing a link between something Murphy says in the heat of the moment to something Mab later does to Harry is tenuous.

[wardenferry419]

Yep, Harry is the type of person to get threats of strangulation on a daily basis.

[Rasins]

Hasn't Murphy placed Harry in a choke hold before?

[Kindler]

Hasn't Murphy placed Harry in a choke hold before?

Man, who hasn't?

[wardenferry419]

Justine?