If Mab dies

[Rasins]

Oh, I don't know.  I believe that Mab is a quite strong willed woman.  Far stronger than the Leansidhe.

That being said, I could totally see her getting nemfected, and in a lucid moment, ordering Harry to kill her.

[wardenferry419]

I have felt like Mab is on a suicide run for awhile. Is she already infected or just feeling the clock ticking a little faster?

[Arjan]

I have felt like Mab is on a suicide run for awhile. Is she already infected or just feeling the clock ticking a little faster?

She knows the BAT is coming and is preparing for it.

[wardenferry419]

Preparing for the battle or preparing to be the death that causes the battle?

[Rasins]

Both?

[Arjan]

Bringing her scales in balance.

[Cozarkian]

"The stars will rain from the sky before Mab fulfills not her word." - Mab, Changes.

The above declaration was actually prophecy. It refers to the BAT book Stars and Stones, when stars will rain from the sky. Once they do, Mab will break her word. However, it is impossible for Mab to break her word -- unless she is nemfected. This is what Harry's true purpose is - Mab wants him as Winter Knight because the Fae Queens are vulnerable to their own power (their own knight) and Harry is the best chance she has at grooming a knight that will be able to kill her. At some point, Mab will reveal to Harry that she is fighting nemfection and ask Harry, as a favor, that when she finally succumbs for him to kill her. Mab failing to refuse her word will be the sign that Harry needs and Harry will successfully kill her at the end of Stars and Stones.

Mab's death will destroy the defense of the Gates, allowing the Outsiders to enter the world for the final book of the trilogy - Empty Night. Further, by killing Mab as a favor, Harry will fulfill the 3rd request from his earlier deal with Mab, and obligation to Mab will cease, including Harry's promise in Changes to become the WK. By that point, Harry will have become accustomed to the power of Winter and in control of the mantle and losing that power will handicap him significantly, and the third book will be a rush for him to learn the true power of a Starborn so that the Outsiders can be repelled and a new defenders of the Gates can be selected.

Based on the above, my emotion when Mab dies will be a drop of sadness in a pool of fear - because it means the all of existence in the DV will be threatened.

[Rasins]

"The stars will rain from the sky before Mab fulfills not her word." - Mab, Changes.

The above declaration was actually prophecy. It refers to the BAT book Stars and Stones, when stars will rain from the sky. Once they do, Mab will break her word. However, it is impossible for Mab to break her word -- unless she is nemfected. This is what Harry's true purpose is - Mab wants him as Winter Knight because the Fae Queens are vulnerable to their own power (their own knight) and Harry is the best chance she has at grooming a knight that will be able to kill her. At some point, Mab will reveal to Harry that she is fighting nemfection and ask Harry, as a favor, that when she finally succumbs for him to kill her. Mab failing to refuse her word will be the sign that Harry needs and Harry will successfully kill her at the end of Stars and Stones.

Mab's death will destroy the defense of the Gates, allowing the Outsiders to enter the world for the final book of the trilogy - Empty Night. Further, by killing Mab as a favor, Harry will fulfill the 3rd request from his earlier deal with Mab, and obligation to Mab will cease, including Harry's promise in Changes to become the WK. By that point, Harry will have become accustomed to the power of Winter and in control of the mantle and losing that power will handicap him significantly, and the third book will be a rush for him to learn the true power of a Starborn so that the Outsiders can be repelled and a new defenders of the Gates can be selected.

Based on the above, my emotion when Mab dies will be a drop of sadness in a pool of fear - because it means the all of existence in the DV will be threatened.

Exactly!!

[peregrine]

Or she's just being poetic.  Mab isn't necessarily never wrong.  She could simply have been referring to a thing that she thinks will never happen.

[wardenferry419]

"The stars will rain from the sky before Mab fulfills not her word." - Mab, Changes.

The above declaration was actually prophecy. It refers to the BAT book Stars and Stones, when stars will rain from the sky. Once they do, Mab will break her word. However, it is impossible for Mab to break her word -- unless she is nemfected. This is what Harry's true purpose is - Mab wants him as Winter Knight because the Fae Queens are vulnerable to their own power (their own knight) and Harry is the best chance she has at grooming a knight that will be able to kill her. At some point, Mab will reveal to Harry that she is fighting nemfection and ask Harry, as a favor, that when she finally succumbs for him to kill her. Mab failing to refuse her word will be the sign that Harry needs and Harry will successfully kill her at the end of Stars and Stones.

Mab's death will destroy the defense of the Gates, allowing the Outsiders to enter the world for the final book of the trilogy - Empty Night. Further, by killing Mab as a favor, Harry will fulfill the 3rd request from his earlier deal with Mab, and obligation to Mab will cease, including Harry's promise in Changes to become the WK. By that point, Harry will have become accustomed to the power of Winter and in control of the mantle and losing that power will handicap him significantly, and the third book will be a rush for him to learn the true power of a Starborn so that the Outsiders can be repelled and a new defenders of the Gates can be selected.

Based on the above, my emotion when Mab dies will be a drop of sadness in a pool of fear - because it means the all of existence in the DV will be threatened.

Damn that is good! I like it!

[Talby16]

"The stars will rain from the sky before Mab fulfills not her word." - Mab, Changes.

The above declaration was actually prophecy. It refers to the BAT book Stars and Stones, when stars will rain from the sky. Once they do, Mab will break her word. However, it is impossible for Mab to break her word -- unless she is nemfected. This is what Harry's true purpose is - Mab wants him as Winter Knight because the Fae Queens are vulnerable to their own power (their own knight) and Harry is the best chance she has at grooming a knight that will be able to kill her. At some point, Mab will reveal to Harry that she is fighting nemfection and ask Harry, as a favor, that when she finally succumbs for him to kill her. Mab failing to refuse her word will be the sign that Harry needs and Harry will successfully kill her at the end of Stars and Stones.

Mab's death will destroy the defense of the Gates, allowing the Outsiders to enter the world for the final book of the trilogy - Empty Night. Further, by killing Mab as a favor, Harry will fulfill the 3rd request from his earlier deal with Mab, and obligation to Mab will cease, including Harry's promise in Changes to become the WK. By that point, Harry will have become accustomed to the power of Winter and in control of the mantle and losing that power will handicap him significantly, and the third book will be a rush for him to learn the true power of a Starborn so that the Outsiders can be repelled and a new defenders of the Gates can be selected.

Based on the above, my emotion when Mab dies will be a drop of sadness in a pool of fear - because it means the all of existence in the DV will be threatened.

Nothing else needed. Great summation.

[wardenferry419]

More eloquent than my "ohh, S#IT!"

[Talby16]

Based on the above, my emotion when Mab dies will be a drop of sadness in a pool of fear - because it means the all of existence in the DV will be threatened.

That last line alone is perfect. Even without all the build up.

[wardenferry419]

If Mab dies and Molly moves up as the replacement; who replaces Molly as lady? Best guess anybody?

[Talby16]

As I understand it (and someone correct me if I am wrong), if Mab dies and Molly moves up she would inherit Mab's mantle, yet still hold the Winter Lady mantle until she can choose someone to replace her. That means it is completely Molly's choice who would replace her. At this point I do not think we have been introduced to a character who fits really well. Murphy, Justine, and Andi could because they have not had children yet, but all are in serious relationships at this time. Here is a longshot: how about Faith. WoJ states that she has a role to play in the BAT. Maybe she steps in as the new Winter Lady.