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[Rasins]

I like it, Jonas.

To give it further credence ...

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Perhaps Wizard Montjoy was one of Simon's crew.  He was on Sabattical in the Yucatan when the war broke out.  We know that is Rampire stomping grounds, so maybe he was turned, and betrayed Simon, who was turned.

As to why he is nemfecting folks ... maybe because he's a rampire now.  Aren't LOONs outsiders?  Wouldn't their presence indicate an Outsider influence on the Rampire king.  Thus setting up Cowl to deliver a Nemfecting knife to Bianca to give to Leah.

[Quantus]

I like it, Jonas.

To give it further credence ...

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Perhaps Wizard Montjoy was one of Simon's crew.  He was on Sabattical in the Yucatan when the war broke out.  We know that is Rampire stomping grounds, so maybe he was turned, and betrayed Simon, who was turned.

As to why he is nemfecting folks ... maybe because he's a rampire now.  Aren't LOONs outsiders?  Wouldn't their presence indicate an Outsider influence on the Rampire king.  Thus setting up Cowl to deliver a Nemfecting knife to Bianca to give to Leah.

Nah, "Lords of the Outer Night" was just the name for the upper tier vampires of the Red Court, the Red king and his immediate cadre. 

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They were mentioned in GP and we long thought bianca might have been referencing an alliance with Outsiders or something, but Changes confirmed that it was just the name for the Red Court leadership, who liked to adopt the trappings of the Mayan pantheon.

As far as the Nemfection, that's the question: 

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Simon died in SK long after the war broke out, but Cowl was already working with the Rampires to cause the War in the first place (and simultaneously Nemfect folks).  So if Simon=Cowl, he either was turned before the War and hid it for a bit, or he was already traitor before he was theoretically turned in SK and was just so mentally powerful that he was able to retain his own self-control (but was still anti-WC).  Or a Door #3 that Im not yet seeing. 

[Rasins]

I go with the latter.  Already turned.

And wasn't some of what Genosa's first wife (I forget her name) in Blood Rites about the Lords of Outer Night while she was calling HWWB?

[Quantus]

I go with the latter.  Already turned.

And wasn't some of what Genosa's first wife (I forget her name) in Blood Rites about the Lords of Outer Night while she was calling HWWB?

Nah, that was Lord of Slowest Terror, and by context sounds like HWWBh's Boss. 

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and they shifted from that other tongue into English. "While here we wait, O hunter of the shadows! We who yearn for your shadow to fall upon our enemy! We who cry out in need for thy strength, O Lord of Slowest Terror! May your right arm come to us! Send unto us your captain of destruction! Mastercraftsman of death! Let now our need become the traveler's road, the vessel for He Who Walks Behind!"

[jonas]

Nah, that was Lord of Slowest Terror, and by context sounds like HWWBh's Boss. 

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Yea I always figure that as one of those original names for

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time itself, Chronos.

[Quantus]

Yea I always figure that as one of those original names for

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time itself, Chronos.

oooh, I like that

[Rasins]

You know what that put me in a mind of ...

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Since we've seen one of the Greek Pantheon, why not have Chronos be in the Time Travel book?

[jonas]

You know what that put me in a mind of ...

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Since we've seen one of the Greek Pantheon, why not have Chronos be in the Time Travel book?

I'm of the idea that would be kinda hard, cause

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I think Chronos IS time. He was torn apart into pieces and the energy from those pieces make up the timestream? Though I wonder if, as time travels linearly from our perspective, actually traveling time from say, Hercules perspective(as higher levels of reality start to become perception based, how you can/would perceive it) if he were to go time traveling would it be like metaphorically traveling down Chronos's huge form itself? He see's himself traveling down his face, hanging from a giant nose hair to leap into the proper moment in time lol

[Quantus]

I'm of the idea that would be kinda hard, cause

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I think Chronos IS time. He was torn apart into pieces and the energy from those pieces make up the timestream? Though I wonder if, as time travels linearly from our perspective, actually traveling time from say, Hercules perspective(as higher levels of reality start to become perception based, how you can/would perceive it) if he were to go time traveling would it be like metaphorically traveling down Chronos's huge form itself? He see's himself traveling down his face, hanging from a giant nose hair to leap into the proper moment in time lol

Elevated to that level he sounds closer to Zuvran who, to put it in DV terms, might be the father of TWG and his evil brother Ahriman.  You might also be able to equate him with Ymir, the norse Giant that was killed to create the world. 

[Rasins]

I'm of the idea that would be kinda hard, cause

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I think Chronos IS time. He was torn apart into pieces and the energy from those pieces make up the timestream? Though I wonder if, as time travels linearly from our perspective, actually traveling time from say, Hercules perspective(as higher levels of reality start to become perception based, how you can/would perceive it) if he were to go time traveling would it be like metaphorically traveling down Chronos's huge form itself? He see's himself traveling down his face, hanging from a giant nose hair to leap into the proper moment in time lol

Still doesn't preclude Harry meeting Chronos.  Perhaps just an avatar of him, like Ferrofax?

[jonas]

Still doesn't preclude Harry meeting Chronos.  Perhaps just an avatar of him, like Ferrofax?

I'd like to see a clock obsessed man in this role, perhaps a maker of fine time pieces himself.

[Romulan Cmdr]

The Greek gods will be in the wrestling book.

[Rasins]

The Greek gods will be in the wrestling book.

Gotcha.  Still, I'd like to see that.

[Romulan Cmdr]

Gotcha.  Still, I'd like to see that.

Me too. I am looking forward to the Mirror universe, the Kaiju book and the Pro Wrestling book.
I think that Peace Talks is one of those important game changing factor books which is why it cant be rushed. Other lighter books like Skin Game, Proven Guility are faster to write because they dont have as much major storyline stuff occuring. I think that ll be the same case with Pro Wrestling and Kaiju. because if I am not wrong, after those 4 it ll be time for the Trilogy.

[Quantus]

Me too. I am looking forward to the Mirror universe, the Kaiju book and the Pro Wrestling book.
I think that Peace Talks is one of those important game changing factor books which is why it cant be rushed. Other lighter books like Skin Game, Proven Guility are faster to write because they dont have as much major storyline stuff occuring. I think that ll be the same case with Pro Wrestling and Kaiju. because if I am not wrong, after those 4 it ll be time for the Trilogy.

This...wow, that makes me laugh so hard.

Based on the average Crack Theory around here, that one has more "Major Storyline Stuff" packed in per word than nearly any other book in the series.  I'd say Cold Days tops it, Grave Peril by pure lasting implication, maybe not Changes (oddly enough?), on the fence about Ghost Story...